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About Airport Privatization...
There's been a lot of talk about mayoral candidates using airport privatization to fund their plans, and I thought I'd clarify the current situation, especially since someone asked about something my boss, Tom Knox, said at a recent forum.
At this time, under current law, Philly can't privatize if Chicago completes their plans for Midway airport, because Congress limited the option to one hub airport. However, Congress is considering an expansion of the pilot program to 15 airports, with no specification on the number of major hubs.
In addition to Midway’s potentially blocking the privatization of PHL, City Hall faces an uphill battle in generating sufficient airline support. A majority of airlines or a conglomeration of airlines that landed 65% of the weight over the past year is needed to approve any lease or sale.
So while it's possible in the future, it's not for now. Even if they change the law, it's politically challenging to get all those airlines on board.
And there's another factor. There are only a handful of companies who can handle the large scope of running a major airport. One of them is Halliburton; another is Dubai Ports International. (You remember them, right?)
Some background from the Chicago Sun-Times, September 15, 2006 (from Lexis, no link):
Currently, Chicago is well on the way to privatizing Midway airport:
“Mayor Daley could privatize Midway Airport without repaying tens of millions in federal funds used to improve the Southwest Side airport, if the Federal Aviation Administration approves an application filed by the city Thursday.
The FAA has a pilot program that allows up to five U.S. airports to be sold or leased to private investors. Only one of those slots can go to a "major commercial hub."
If approved, the city's application would reserve that slot for Midway, and "we aren't under an obligation to repay" federal grants, including those used to finance a $927 million reconstruction project, said Chief Financial Officer Dana Levenson.
Levenson described the application as a "placeholder" that would ensure Midway "can't be moved out of line."
It's not exactly a long line. The FAA pilot is 10 years old, and not a single U.S. airport has taken advantage of it.”











Which is my issue with some
Which is my issue with some of Fattah's plans. He needs to have a Plan B for funding.
Hey Dan, can we have a failsafe to cut his poverty programs if he doesn't generate $130 million a year in new funding? ;)
*teasing*
They're not going to happen
without the funding. He's linked them, quite responsibly, as opposed to some of the other candidates who have presented only the vaguest funding ideas to finance their big plans. But fighting poverty clearly should be the central issue in the campaign, and I'm impressed that Fattah has made that so forcefully clear.
I don't know if the airport plan will work or not. There may well be obstacles that can be overcome with leadership. I think Fattah can provide it. But whether he can or not, at least he's identified the main issue that afflicts the city. He ought to get points for that. No candidate can foresee all of the obstacles that may or may not emerge to hinder his ability to achieve his goals. But having the right goals is a pretty big deal.
And if he can't achieve the airport deal, I hereby commend to him for his consideration, and that of all the candidates, a certain grand bargain which can be found at the following nearby address: http://youngphillypolitics.com/grand_bargain
There should be other ways of raising the money. I remember well that when the original idea of building a convention center came up, and the idea of replacing the Vet with not one but two new parks, the cry was heard all around the state that the money was simply not available. Well, enough heavy hitters wanted those things, and the money was found. The heavy hitters need to be enlisted around the necessity to fight poverty. And then, the money will be found.
Funding and a Plan
There's also no real plan attached to the promise of funding; the opportunity agenda is extremely vague and doesn't establish any kind of baseline in terms of talking about the current service delivery structures, the gaps in what's provided and what is needed, and the mechanisms for enhancing services. For instance, the policy piece makes no mention of the nearly 30,000 individuals and $3 billion in spending currently directed to providing educational, poverty abatement, and community-oriented services working in the School District of Philadelphia, the Mayor’s Office of Community Services, Office of Emergency Shelter and Services, Department of Human Services, and a myriad of nonprofits.
I think that it's certainly good politics; it got a lot of folks excited, but a lot more detail will have to be filled in to make it good policy.
Those are interesting statistics
Where do they come from?
Statistics
97.37% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
But seriously, I just did some quick math: the School District has about 25,000 employees and about a $2 billion dollar budget and then when you add in DHS with about 2,200 employees and aggregate the other departments I mentioned (and some others) and aggregate spending it all comes out to be about 30,000 people spending $3 billion annually. I don't know what the non-profits have in terms of employees and spending. I could provide more detail if it furthered the conversation.
I get your drift
and there's no doubt those assets need to be used smarter. Economies can undoubtedly be found, such as ditching the for profit educational companies that have sucked up tens of millions of dollars and provided 0 benefit in return. But ultimately we're not going to reduce class size, fund sufficient after-school and apprenticeship opportunities, and provide the additional supports needed without additional funding. Fattah recognizes that fact which is step 1. He does need to provide detail on how to allocate the additional resources he intends to find, and that would be step 2. However, I think he's provided half of that step through the idea of bringing all the stakeholders together to fashion a plan during his first year. Mayors and mayoral campaigns don't have all the answers, and even if they did, they need buy-in from those who will be implementing on the ground. He will also need buy-in from whoever will be providing the funding, and/or time to implement his airport funding plan. So it's responsible to call for implementation in a deliberate manner.
He may want to issue more precise guidelines to the stakeholders, though, which I would welcome during the campaign.
I don't know...
I don't know...many of his plans are intentionally vague - the goal seems to be to brainstorm up some good ideas and then hire some experts to handle the nuts and bolts of implementing them (who knows how long that could take). And apparently Fattah doesn't even intend to look at the nuts and bolts until after he's elected. That includes whether the project is even feasible, like the airport.
The airport plan is a huge leap of faith for me. It's the basis for the funding for almost all of his new programs, but he just forgot to mention that his plan is presently not lawful. I'd call that a little more than a major barrier to implementation.
who do you support?
who's your choice for Mayor J Young?
Disclaimer
Since a lot of people here seem to be working for candidates, I’ll put out there that I’m not working for anyone and any thoughts or opinions posted herein are my own.
That said, to be frank, and it probably shows, I prefer Nutter. I’ve been in Philly a little over a year and it seems to me that the city is broken on a fundamental level. And as a new resident, its these basic problems that make me want to flee the city: the streets are strewn with garbage, the zoning has made the city look like a patchwork quilt and makes it difficult to navigate, someone was raped three blocks from my house two nights ago. Looking for a candidate to answer those questions, I want someone who can understand the guts of basic city operation and not give me rhetoric. No, taxes aren’t sexy. Neither is zoning or municipal finance. But the next Mayor is going to have to deal with them. Also, as an aside, I think previous administrations’ attempts to pawn those details off to other parties is part of the reason why the city is so corrupt.
I like Nutter’s record. His policy goals tend to address the long term and the immediate, they are specific and I think they include everyone, from business owners through residents of all classes.
The other candidates are a pretty distant second to me. I’m liking Brady more and more but I don’t think he’ll change the things in the city that really need to be changed. Knox and Evans: I take ethical issues with on their past business and voting records. Fattah has some good ideas, but I don’t think he can implement many of them. I also don't feel that he’s offering much to the middle class (which includes myself) – the gentry will get their own, but people like me, who can’t buy a house because we don’t qualify for loan assistance, who can’t find jobs because they are all moving out to the burbs (when I came to Philly I was unemployed; I found my present job through connections I made when I got here). I’m all for curing poverty, but I have to eat too.
Hope that answers your question; sorry for the long post.
Helpful
That wasn't too long. I am just interested in the fact that the person you like least, Fattah, is the person you spent the most time writing about above. You are new to Philly, but as a native, let me tell you this mayoral election has more wild cards and the best candidates that we have had in years.
I think you are factually inaccurate about Fattah, but since you clearly have your mind made up, I won't go into a lot of detail. I think your info about him is coming from other bloggers and not the policy papers he has released which have quite a lot of info and show that he has ideas and priorities that speak to all Philadelphians at all income levels.
However, for you and mostly the Nutter supporters, write something good about your guy. I've never seen an underdog--which is what Nutter is right now based on his polling--rise up by tearing the other guy down. Remember Chuck Pennachio?
Dwight Evans, Brady and Knox are not the current leaders of the polls, but you have to give their campaigns and their supporters credit for sticking to their message.
I am sure many of you are discounting what I am saying because i work for Fattah, but remember I was a co-editor of this blog long before that, and will continue to be after the election, and I am really wearing that hat right now to say that all the hating by Nutter supporters is really, really B-O-R-I-N-G.
Please, I welcome you, write about what is he for and what he plans to do rather than just talking about how much the city sucks and how bad it is and how you hate the other candidates.
Personal attacks
In other words, negative attacks are bad. Unless they are directed at a Nutter supporter.
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I support Michael Nutter for Mayor.
Thanks for the love Ray
Actually, I don't dislike Fattah.
I think Fattah has some truly excellent ideas. I don't even rank him as last - for me, he's in a dead heat for second with Brady. And I don't intend to "hate" on him; I'm sorry if you took it that way. I've read several of Fattah's policy papers, and any articles I can in the Inky, the Daily and the local papers.
What you take as "hating" is an attempt to start a debate (got you going, didn't it). I like Nutter because of what I've read about him. But the election is several months away and a lot can change in that time. People on this board spend a lot of time talking about Nutter, his policies and his past work, but spend very little time discussing the work HISTORY of Brady, Fattah, Evans or Knox. I've done some digging on my own, but I would like to hear more about these guys, not just incessant ranting about the BPT.
Finally, Ray, because you felt the need to be personal, so will I. I think your post was unnecessarily personal and somewhat nasty. And it's probably one of the reasons a lot of new people like myself don't blog. If you disagree with my critique, please feel free to correct me. But please, don't insult me.
was it the boring part?
i thought i was pretty nice and i was far from personal with you...I don't even know your name. Sorry if saying that Nutter supporters bitching was boring, but it truly does seem to be all Nutter supporters do on YPP. I agree with you: Nutter does have a history and things worth talking about. All I am saying is talk about them.
Again, you said you had only been here for a year, but the past 8 years with everyone hating Street--even when he did something good--sucked. And we all want to move our city forward, no matter who is elected. If all you can say about the mayor's race is that you don't like the other candidates, then maybe you should start your debates somewhere else.
As has been said a gajillion times now, YPP is not a debate society or an equal opportunity blog: it's an intentional community to talk about the big picture issues that face Philly from a young "progressive" perspective (not just elections).
There are plenty of issues to talk about in the mayor's race and many other races, not to mention lots of interesting things going on in Harrisburg and a City Council that is still in session and about to debate a budget.
Defensive
Clearly Nutter supporters aren't the only ones who are defensive on this blog. I will take your advice and take any comments about your candidate elsewhere. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Um, Ray, this thread is
Um, Ray, this thread is called "About Airport Privatization." It makes sense that everyone (including J Young) is talking about Fattah, since this is his proposal. If we all just jumped on this thread and said, "this is why Michael Nutter is great!", that would be a little strange. J Young didn't even mention Nutter until you asked him about it.
J Young seems to be working his way through all of the posts on the blog, including this one. I hope you didn't chase him off.
You should hope that J Young got a lot of his information from this blog. This is the best source of political information and debate about the candidates on the web! And you can direct him to your candidates' proposals without saying, "Look, kid, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about, so why don't you read this and keep your mouth shut."
Also, I've posted a lot of stuff, some of it having nothing to do with Fattah (and some not having anything to do with Nutter) and very few people responded to it, and in some cases none at all. Partly this is because very few people share my love of arcane budgetary details or candidates' voting records. But it's also because when people bash Fattah or people bash Nutter, it gets a big response, and people continue to keep responding. And it doesn't seem like pro-Nutter stuff (or pro-Brady stuff, or pro-Knox stuff) makes it on to the front page very often.
Supporting Michael Nutter for Mayor.
Ray, this is positively Orwellian
Ray, this is positively Orwellian. You write:
"I am really wearing that hat right now to say that all the hating by Nutter supporters is really, really B-O-R-I-N-G."
Nutter has received the most scrutiny and criticism of any candidate on this blog. His supporters have been derided as Nutter Butters (whatever that means).
We’ve tried to answer those criticisms and have also been very positive about our candidate. Jeff Freidman (and others) have consistently argued against reducing Nutter to his position on the BPT and have over and over again drawn attention to Nutter's 15 year record of achievement in city government. (See http://www.nutter2007.com)
Susan (from Knox’s campaign) was even moved to write a satiric poem (?) because she thought Nutter’s supporters were overly laudatory.
I wasn't mocking Michael Nutter.
Submitted by Susan_Madrak on Sun, 02/18/2007 - 7:25am.
I was poking gentle fun at those who apparently believe the man walks on water. Michael is a talented, articulate politician, but as far as I know, not a superhuman.
So I don’t understand your charge that Nutter supporters have been focusing exclusively on the negative. Also, it’s early and what the polls are not measuring is intensity of support and Nutter sure has that.
Supporting Michael Nutter for Mayor
Karen
Nutter Butters are a cookie. Nutter hands them out at transit stops. It was not derogatory, it was colloquial.
Thanks for clarification.
Thanks for clarification.
Supporting Michael Nutter for Mayor
Also
There was a lot of defensiveness to my questions, including direct attacks on me for asking them.
Karen, let's talk about Nutter's scrutiny
Let's be clear Karen: Nutter has not received the most criticism of anyone on this blog. I am pretty sure Chaka Fattah, Bob Brady and Tom Knox would all disagree with you there---and let's not forget Johnny Doc.
Nutter declared himself the "reform-progressive" candidate for mayor in the Nov 8th Daily News and that has drawn the attention of a lot of people who identify as progressives or reformers. I know the BPT is on the same off-topic list as Mumia, but that is an issue that's been at the center of a lot of local progressive organizing...so, you know what they say about the bull and the horns...but whatever, maybe Nutter is in line with a majority of people who identify as reformers or progressives and that's fine.
Rhetoric aside, my candidate has taken a beating on this blog too, but that hasn't stopped him from keeping on proposing policy ideas. I'd rather read more about Nutter's ideas than read his supporters criticism of others. But, hey to each his own campaign strategy I guess.
Mom! Ray's on my side of the car!
Without a tally of posts and comments, I'm not sure that I agree with you. (At least in the past month. I don't recall any Johnny Doc threads.) Everyone's perception is shaded by their own views. I'm not going to bicker about it further, and I'm not going to bother doing the tally.
I am not affiliated with the Nutter campaign, and I'm unaware of any poster that is.
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I support Michael Nutter for Mayor.
Your blog your rules
Hey Ray, it's your blog; you make the rules. Yeah, I like Nutter. But that's not the reason I'm criticizing your guy. Its fair to not only critique someone's ideas, but when your running for a position like Mayor, its also fair to critique their ability to implement those ideas. I want to talk about his past record, not just his new ideas. Thats all I was questioning ( And you never know, he may change my mind. BTW, I was basing my point on the article in the Weekly today; even Kia Gregory, the author, raised the issue of your guy's execution strategy.
The way your phrased your comment did make it come off as forbiding criticism of your candidate rather than commentary on that criticism. And it was "clearly" directed not just at me, but at anyone who likes Nutter. Your ire toward the "nutter butters" is obvious: I already said don't work for him or anybody else, but you still try to attribute my criticism of other candidates to his campaign. But do what you want. If thats how you want to run your site, thats cool. Hell, I'm glad you're up-front about it.
People on this blog don't
People on this blog don't respond to positive posts about Nutter. It's like it was never written.
LOL- that's the problem
Commenters on this blog, who are a small percentage of readers, do not write comments about any positive post for any candidate. This is not about politics or support for any candidate, this is an attitude of smarty-pantsness. This is instructive for all of us.
On my part,I have already apologized many times for my negative my descriptions of Nutter (mostly written when he was still on council and not declared as a Mayor) which i made a personal pledge to stop about four months ago. Since then, I have focused on writing about ideas and candidates I like.
It's not a "rule" of the blog, but it's something I chose to do.
Nutter critisim
I've certainly been a part of the crowd criticizing Nutter for his stance on the BPT.
However, I didn't specifically go after the BPT cut because it was Nutter's proposal. I wrote that op-ed and a lot of blog posts because I thought the mainstream media was too one sided on the issue. Seriously, how many times did the Inquirer or Daily News print a perspective that was critical of the tax cut mania? Brett Mandel and Philadelphia Forward got an incredible amount of free media from almost every outlet.
I think we cross into a dangerous territory when posters are eager to tear apart a proposal simply because it belongs on one candidate. Bringing it back to the original point, I am somewhat suspicious of selling the airport. However, I am excited that Fattah wants to use the money to fight poverty. Like all the ideas offered by the mayoral hopefuls, I hope that we can have a measured discussion on this site.
I hope that people will weigh each proposal on it's merits-- and not simply become hacks for their chosen candidate.
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http://benwaxman.com
I agree with you there
I agree with you there, Ben. We shouldn't attack posts because they support a specific candidate. I'm not criticizing Fattah because he's running against another candidate. I'd honestly like to hear more about the "Plan B" if the airport funding falls through. Let me know if, as Ray says, that is being "negative" and I'll stop asking the question. I've said before, I like a lot of Fattah's ideas. Regardless of who wins, I hope some of them get implemented by the next mayor.
His plan B
I guess he plans to just get more bonds like Philly did for the stadiums. Hooray for more debt.
http://philadelphiaweekly.com/view.php?id=14107