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Councilman Kenney is Wrong
Councilman Kenney writes here on why he is introducing the bill to gut the City's new campaign finance law.
This is my basic response to what he said:
First, and fundamentally, the Councilman says this is about fairness, and, gives "the money is like water, it finds a way in," argument:
Capping campaign spending is a noble concept. Public financing of campaigns is equally venerable. But both are wishful thinking in an imperfect electoral system in an imperfect world. Candidates will always find ways to get around public financing and around spending limits.
So, Jim, What do you mean by getting around it? Violate the law? One big reason for campaign finance limits is to limit corruption, or the appearance of corruption. When City Council passes a law, and then attempts to overturn it because of a poll that shows an outsider doing well, that is very problematic.
Basically, by your logic, if candidates will always get around it, we should give up. But, you are keeping it for Council races, right? So, that seems inconsistent. And frankly, that is pretty damn worrisome for the future. I would venture to say that getting money out of politics in local races has been more successful in different cities than, say, fixing urban public schools. We aren't just giving up on that though, right?
Secondly, who says public financing doesn't work anyway? Anecdotally, it has worked in a number of different places. And yes, in NYC Bloomberg got elected with his millions and millions- but 1)he is a gazillionaire, and 2)their public funding system largely was credited with giving his competition in his first race more of an edge then he otherwise would have had.
Third, in terms of corruption, we know the law firms, etc are still banned from giving tons. But, besides them, who else? How much can a statewide PAC give Dwight Evans? How many hundreds of thousands can Gerry Lenfest give Fattah? How many millions will unions pour into Brady?
How much power will John Dougherty have, if he can give a million dollars of IBEW money to the candidate of his choice?
Basically, what you have is a system that once again returns us to being beholden by a chosen few power brokers.
The risks of a candidate being "bought" by campaign contributors are no more evil than a candidate buying the election itself.
As I have made clear on this site, I do not like what Tom Knox is doing. But, in fact, I disagree that they are morally equivalent. At the very least, people will be voting for Knox. When someone is cutting someone else checks for hundreds of thousands, who are we really voting for?
Fundamentally, you don't like that Knox has been able to zoom to high name recognition. But instead, you are going to make him the victim and you are going to make Brady, in particular, the personification of a system that cares above all else about making sure its various players stay in power. From Carol Campbell basically violating the law with her PAC, to this, you are giving people less faith in Government, not more.
We know where Nutter stands. But, if you want to personify in one law why Congressman Brady should not be elected, and why we need to tear down the current way we are dong business in the City- this is it. And so, you might be giving Brady some more money now, but, in doing so, you are going to personify him, rightly or wrongly, as everything that is wrong with this City, where no matter what, preserving power trumps policy.
Finally, strategically, this is just not smart. Knox will not win, not given his lack of policy experience and how he made his money. He is ahead because it is still really early. That will change. But, you are about to make him the noble outsider, something he does not deserve to be.











Good post Dan
Even though you are not a fan of Knox, it was very fair to him.
The additional problem with this is the $2 million cap is what Knox has spent up to now. this means he would be forced to completely revamp his strategy and start generating money from donations ... and means he couldn't spend a dime until then. It could have effectively knocked him out of the race for several weeks while he tries to gear up some donations.
Also, if he knew he could only spend $2 million, he very likely would have spent it a lot differently.
Changing the rules after the game started is bad.
Why is it wrong...
to desire an election for mayor that allows each candidate an equal opportunity to gather the resources necessary to access the main vehicle to speak to the electorate, television.
The poll involving Knox uptick is, to me, clearly a result of massive ad buying by Knox. His commercials are not heavy on policy but softball pieces about his view of himself.
The other candidates have been struggling as are the council candidates, to raise the necessary funds to run effective elections. It is very difficult to do.
Meanwhile, the wealthy candidate rolls along, unrestrained, spending massive sums of money and , potentially, creating an enormous lead which might not be caught.
The other candidates, all credible, have a diminished opportunity to rebut the wealthy candidate's claims and to define themselves properly.
This is reform?
Councilman, Don't you think
Councilman,
Don't you think it is antithetical to reform to fight for campaign limits you voted, but now they are inconvinient so it's time to abandon them? These are your principles too. Stand by them.
Boy, I'm glad General Washington didn't give up that harsh winter in Valley Forge when things got tough. Or, that the Brits didn't give up when their nation was having the hell bombed out of it before America got into the war (battle of Britian). Or, that Martin Luther King did not give up when he was beat-up and jailed. Or, that Congressman Brady didn't give up when he couldn't afford a can of soup to feed his kids.
Principles do not waiver under the most extreme circumstances. If this was the bill you originally intended, fine--but it was not and we all know it.
Supporting Michael Nutter in 2007!
The more I think about that question, the more pissed-off
I get.
Jim, what is your job? Is it to decide what's best for Philadelphia, or to represent Philadelphians' interests? Is it your job to tell us what's in our best interests, or to listen to what we have to say?
How do most Philadelphians feel on this issue, Jim? It seems rather obvious how most Councilmembers feel on the issue, and we can imagine how most candidates for mayor feel on the issue - some candidates in particular.
But how do most Philadelphians feel about it? Do you know? Isn't it your job to know, and vote accordingly?
Then enact public financing,
Then enact public financing, with greater escalation in races where candidates self fund. That is really the simplest answer.
Take NYC's law, and copy it word for word.
The answer to a problem should not be a step backward.
NYC's laws?
What law are you talking about? Is this something passed since NYC's Billionaire in Chief was elected to a second term while spending millions out of his own pocket?
Just to be clear, I think that Bloomberg has been a pretty darned good mayor, and that he has been able to make some really tough choices because he didn't owe anyone anything and didn't have to go begging for money for his next campaign (the increase in property taxes, which effects mainly middle-upper class people--i.e. the Dem funding base-- comes to mind). I also think that the NYC Dem Party is an outdated, rusted, and broken down machine that cannot put forward an inspiring left leaning candidate, and who probably couldn't tie their own shoes if they had to. That doesn't mean I agree with rich people crushing their competition because of campaign finance laws, but I still don't know which law you're referring to...
Kenney if you're so self
Kenney if you're so self righteous how come you are not trying to reform outside income for councilpeople. Especially from companies that do business with the city of Phila like the Vietta Group ( 100 large in your pocket)
If I recall, wasn't the
If I recall, wasn't the threat of Knox going into the race and self funding, around when the original campaign finance bill was passed?
So, it isn't a surprise that he was going to do it.
The Machine Is Broken
Jim- I don't know if you meant to, but you pointed to what many of us feel is so wrong with our political system today, when you ask this:
While I can understand this sentiment in regards to a national campaign, and maybe even a campaign on the state level, the fact that our politicians turn to the media as their main access point to the electorate is a huge problem for local candidates. If the people of Philadelphia feel that the only way to hear from their elected representatives is via the TV, than the government of the city, as well as the Democratic Party, has shown that it is truly broken and in need of either repair or replacement.
Here's a guess: Because it's
Here's a guess: Because it's a bill you specifically proposed to get your friend, Bob Brady, elected mayor.
That was simple.
Why are you asking why is it wrong?
If you read the opinions voiced on a number of threads today, you can clearly see people's thinking on this.
Why are you still asking that question? Do you even care enough to read how people feel? If you do, then why don't you know why people feel it is wrong? You don't have to agree, but people's reasoning is clear.
The fact that you just reiterate your position seems to suggest that you don't really care about what people's answer is.
That's a pretty bad indictment of someone who's supposed to be representing us in our government.
reform
It's stupid to enact new legislation just because Knox has an early lead based on TV ads. Once other start running ads and the candidates meet in more head to head forums things will even out. Knox is ahead because he is the only one talking right now. Changing the rules now will only allow unions and PACs to pour hundred of thousands into this race and shift the power away from the citizens. I suspect that Brady would rather raise money from a few very large donors as opposed to appealing to a broad number of donors based on his actual vision for the city.
If people want to combat Knox they need to hustle in terms of fund raising and getting around the city to meet people. No one said this was going to be easy and it appears that Kenney is trying to bail out the people who are trailing by allowing them to compete through expensive TV ads instead of doing it the old fashioned way. The ads that run in the last few weeks along with local media coverage will be enough to make sure every candidate is well known before May 15.
Where are the candidates?
Agreed with sjones. This election will not be won by Knox's ads. People will tire of them. This election is up in the air, and everyone I talk to is waiting to see who has a real and distinct vision for the city. This will come out in meetings and face to face, and will spread more effectively neighbor to neighbor than Knox's ads will.
I also agree that there is something of the old-fashioned that makes sense in a race like this and I do not see it. I take Septa to 30th St. every day; I am there with thousands of others; why don't we see them on the platform shaking hands? How hard can it be to get on the R7 and work your way down the aisle taking questions? You will reach a lot more voters with clout coming in from CH West and Mt. Airy than you will with ads on during Oprah.
Political Doc
Television
How can you dismiss the overwhelming impact of TV on every aspect of our lives including politics? I hate it, but TV rules this county now. "Face to face" is my preference but television is the dominant method of communication in a political campaign.
Pass a law that demands free
Pass a law that demands free TV time- lets see if the stations even bother trying to challenge it.
I doubt they will.
Knox has been the only one on TV- that is about to change, and his numbers will go down.
Right
As soon as I pass a law making everyone handsome.
Dan: Bingo! That's the solution.
Everything else just nips at the symptoms. The cause is TV and how expensive (and absolutely necessary) it is in a political campaign. Unfortunately, it can only be regulated at the federal level so any city ordinance about free TV time would be invalid. And good luck getting Congress to pass a law forcing TV to set aside free time for political ads.
I don't know- don't other
I don't know- don't other municipalities demand it? Does anyone know this?
What about calling a summit tomorrow of the station managers of the three networks, Brian Roberts, John McVerizon, and whoever else.
Don't kill the law- which is working. The focus is now on collecting small donations- that is a wonderful thing. Let's get creative about solving it- not killing the law.
face to face??
How can you say that you are a "face to face" guy when I heard through the grapevine that when a few constituents dropped by your house to ask a few questions you hid behind the sofa and sent your 14 year old kid to the door to answer their concerns? Anyway every time I try to have a discussion with you you refuse to make eye contact and look at the ground.
Quit While You're Behind
Councilman - I must shout...YOU'RE DOING THIS TO HELP A FRIEND IN THE MAYOR'S RACE!! IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT!! You knew that Knox had $15 million to spend months and months ago and that he'd spend a lot of it on television...why didn't you do anything about it then?
Don't Shout.
There is no need to. I have a number of friends in this race.
I went to high school and served 15 years in council with Mike Nutter. I have known and worked with Dwight Evans for the past 25 years and have been a friend of Bob Brady for the past 28 years. My relationship with Chakha Fattah is not as long but I consider him a political friend and a good public official. All would make a good mayor.
I did not see the effects of Knox's millions until I picked up my Tuesday Daily News from my doorstep. Until then, no one really thought he would be a factor. He is now.
If you are comfortable with his advantage,that's ok. I am not.
When was the bill crafted?
When was the bill crafted?
WWGjr
Drafting?
Tuesday morning and Wednesday all day. Introduced Thursday.
Just curious: If Brady came
Just curious: If Brady came out against this- what would you do?
Pull It
They all must tell me no.I see a real problem with Knox and his payday lending millions. If they do not, fine. I wish them good luck and I have done what I can.
OK
Good to hear.
But, seriously- with all the breaks we give Comcast, for example- don't you think our most prominent corporate citizens, the Roberts-Cohen duo, would at least listen to you if you told them it was time to talk about TV time over the next three months.
"If you are comfortable with
"If you are comfortable with his advantage,that's ok. I am not."
You do realize you represent us. If your constituents are ok with it and a majority of the candidates are ok with it, why do you feel you need to persevere?
Your actions imply you following your own agenda and not the "will of the people".
Advantage?
Councilman - how about being the Democratic Party Boss and being a sitting US Congressman, might that provide a certain candidate with an unfair advantage? Are you comfortable with that?
Kenney's true colors
Now you all are seeing the true colors of Jim Kenney. This about face is the same crap we have been seeing from him for years.
Where does Councilman Kenney’s loyalty lie? With Fumo and Brady. Not Philly. Not ethics. Not Young Philly Politics.
To be politically correct, I’d call Jim Kenney ethically challenged. And I’d call Vitetta the 800 pound gorilla in the corner of the room.
What I want to see is a leader that makes decisions based on what is right for the people that they are supposed to be looking out for. NOT MAYORAL OR COUNCIL CANDIDATES FUND RAISING ABILITIES IN AN ELECTION YEAR. I want to see a leader that sticks by ethical convictions no matter what.
There is a lot more to be said for straightforward and consistent action than telling people like yourselves only what they want to hear on the surface.