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A couple of things from Hannah - no death or Macbeth references this time
1. Wow. The weather is just gorgeous.
2. What is up with this weird anti-527 craze????
I dont see what on earth is wrong with them at all. Why is the Ethics Board using its newfound powers going after a totally legal campaign tactic? 527s are just another way of getting one's message out. There is nothing wrong with telling the truth about your opponent in a race if they have done something wrong, illegal, or improper. In fact, it is a duty to speak out against people who do bad things. That's what 527s are for. Go Alex Talmadge and Ken Smuckler.
A know a lot of people reflexively don't like "negative campaigns".
But criticism and debate are a totally crucial part of democracy. 527s are a way to do that without the good guy looking like a crazy screaming lunatic.
Let's take George W Bush as an exmaple.
Would you really feel like politics worked properly if you unable to criticize George W. Bush's presidential behavior?
And not say things like... he's a tool of the defense and oil industries, he stole the last two elections, he's destroyed 20 years of enviromental policies...etc etc?
Don't tell me the Ethics Board has nothing better to do than this!!!!
3. Okay - pols - can we please PLEASE PLEASE put a stop now to the "Michael-Nutter-can-win-I-told-you-so-but-you-didnt-listen"-ism that is now going on?
Whatever!!!!
There was no guarantee from day one - his campaign could have misstepped somehow, or God could have messed it up for him - and then you wouldn't be shooting off your mouths now. I am guilty of it too, but I was openly humiliated in PhillyMag as "not living in reality", so i have reason to want vindication.
4. Speaking of God - the Supreme being sure has really been referenced a lot this year, mostly by the Nutter folks. I thought it was just me but then there's Brett Mandel in a Metro article saying "God wants reform."
What is going on????
5. McDonald story on Jannie/Knox press conference really made me laugh. Go back and read it, you can feel the contempt!
6. Someone told me that Dwight Evans is now going around talking about making tv ads free. Is this true? That's so hot!
7. And...last but not least...
What's going on with the clock on City Hall?
It's been stopped at five minutes to 12 forever.
When's it gonna be noon?











I thought the issue is the
I thought the issue is the 527s are "possibly" illegally tied to a candidate's campaign and therefore may have campaign contribution issues.
I am sure someone knows more specific details of the issue.
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Staff member of Longacre for 5th Council District.
Longacre Website
Karl Rove should not be a role model for Dems
Let me get this: we all go berserk if Karl Rove illegally colludes with a 527 like Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - downing our dreams of stopping the long nightmare of the Bush Administration.
But its perfectly fine for Philadelphia-based 527's to apparently do the same thing? Does the establishment think Philadelphia is filled with schmucks? (Yep!) Philadelphians are fed up with backroom deals and public winks and nods.
Double standards are not good for Democracy Hannah. And its truly disappointing coming from you, previously Ethics Reform's most vocal proponent.
Swift Boats and 527s
The problem with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign was not that it was funded by a 527 but that it was totally false.
I am as strong proponent of public financing (and clean elections) as anyone in this city. But we really can't make independent issue campaigns illegal and still keep the first amendment, can we?
There is a problem when 527s are not really independent of political campaigns. And they are another way for contributors to evade campaign contribution limits.
However, if we had (1) low cost tv ads and (2) publically financed campaigns that are financed at high enough levels, 527s could not overwhelm the political debate and the impact of contributions to them would be very much diminished.
You're right, its only half of it.
Its the apparent connection and coordination with the Bush White House and re-election campaign - which would be illegal. We now have proof (of what we long suspected): that political coordination is one of the chief daily tasks in the White House. Just look at the RNC email scandal.
Ken Smuckler should be ashamed of himself for his wanton disrespect of Philadelphia voter's intelligence.
Some Philadelphia political consultants need to realize how this is hurting our future: Using Karl Rove's playbook sabotages an entire movement to make this city a better place for all of us.
Anne
http://ballotforchange.blogspot.com
You know what's REALLY bad for Dems, Anne
You know what campaign tactics are really bad for progressives, Anne?
Well - I can think of one!
That would be ....
Organizing hundreds of people to put on a fake election and run a useless fake Eday operation for a ballot question that DOESN'T EXIST on the SAME DAY WHEN THERE IS A REAL ELECTION GOING ON!!!!!
Yep!
In case you guys haven't heard -
Casino Free Philadelphia is running a fake election on ... the same day as the real election!
This May 15!
No I am not kidding!
Look, they even have a volunteer form here: http://www.phillysballotbox.org/recruit
An election in which there are great candidates like Mike Nutter, Marc Stier, Andy Toy, Maria Q-S, etc etc...who actually have a chance to win!!
An election that will determine the future of the city, as opposed to just one person's political career!
An election in which we need all the volunteers and grassroots support we can get!
Becuase....
you can have a fake election any darn day you want Anne!
The real ones only come around every four years!
ok..let's not say anything we don't mean...
Anne. Hannah. Deep breaths.
Ripped a page from pro-democracy movements
http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/features/feature21/civilrights.html
Casino-Free Philadelphia is supporting Get Out the Vote efforts through out the city. They are distributing voter guides through-out the city. All City Council and Mayoral candidates are included in that voter guide like Andy Toy, Matt Ruben, Caryn Hunt, Marc Stier, Maria Q-S, etc... The process for the vote will be to encourage folks to vote in election FIRST, then vote at the Philly Ballot Box afterwards. If anything, this will increase voter participation, and interest in down-ballot races.
I'm actually taking a break from Casino-Free Philadelphia right now to concentrate on down-ballot races like Sheriff, City Commissioner, the Common Pleas Court, and City Council. We have a tremendous opportunity to change this city, no matter who is chosen as mayor. Check it out: http://ballotforchange.blogspot.com
PS - There are two very real elections every year in Philadelphia. If more folks paid attention, something might change.
I'm sorry, Hannah, but
I'm sorry, Hannah, but considering I have lived in this town my entire life and my home is in the line of fire and that my family and friends and some of their employment and business are similarly situated, taking the pulse of Philadelphians is very important to me and I thank CFP for doing it.
Four generations of my family have lived in South Philly, Hannah. There are tons of people just like us. We didn't just move here, we've always been here. And, those people are appreciative of CFP's efforts.
You might not like the tactic, but maybe should should thank the Pennsylvania Supreme Court for their preliminary injunction instead of insulting the work that people like Anne, Jethro and all those at CFP are doing. And, further, the work that all those people at the DRNA do every week to coordinate 23 neighborhood associations against this travesty.
And, maybe you didn't think this out, but I'd say the casino effort has brought new people into community and political activism. I would bet that many people on May 15 volunteering for the "fake ballot" would not have volunteered for a candidate. You know why--because these are people's homes, Hannah.
Wait a second
The only reason that the shadow ballot is being organized is because the original ballot question approved be City Counsil was stricken down by the Supreme Court. Relax and realize that most of us are on the same side. The 527s are slimy, but it's no worse then Knox circumventing campaign contribution laws by donating his own money. You run the risk of alienating alot of people with your rhetoric and that's not what the Nutter campaign should be about.
I just speak for myself right now.
Hi - I shuld explain - my background is a little unusual. This has nothing to do with Mike Nutter.
My rhetoric is very strong because i have been working on the anti-casino movement on and off for a year now, and sometimes I am frustrated with the direction that the debate has taken, and the fact that there are so many issues that we havent yet talked about, and real problems we need to address.
I am a consultant who worked on Anne Dicker's race for state rep last year and did her media. She ran on an anti-casino platform, and Anne's charisma and the media work done on that race (we had a great team of writers) are some of the major reasons that casinos are such a major part of our public debate right now. This is not to take too much credit - the folks working on the Budd site were good organizers, and didnt want to tear each other apart like the South Philly civic associations.
Because of this work, I personally have a lot of ownership and emotional investment with these issues, living nine blocks from Foxwoods - and I do feel comfortable making criticism of strategic moves for a fight that I once thought was winnable.
I would very much like to see this all end up in a way that is good for everyone. I am worried about the course of action now. It's turning ugly and it's not really about reality anymore.
I will give you an example of something that we should talk about...
I am particularly concerned about how a massive glob of casino money will be spent by the city. Right now, I don't think there are any earmarks for education or property taxes as there are for casino revenues on the state level. This could turn into a bloodbath in city council when people start fighting over the money. Who knows? Maybe they will double their pensions!
Hopefully we will have Mike Nutter in office, and I certainly trust him with the budget process, and the need to use the money wisely.
I could go on and on, but I need to go back to work.
Hannah
So who were you speaking for
So who were you speaking for above when you called the CFP alternative ballot "fake."
This is an emotional issue. People will disagree. Let's just realize that in a city of 1.4 million people, there are only a few hundred who engage on these topics as much as we do. And, as shown by this blog, we do not always agree. But, it doesn't mean we do not care.
I see where you're coming from
As a relative newcommer to the anti-casino movement, I don't know the entire backstory. However, tying the shadow ballot to the mayoral election to the 527s just doesn't seem productive. The way I see it, alot of passionate people are trying to do what they think is right, most of us are on the same side, but sometimes we come to different conclusions. Right now, the most important thing is to unite where possible and set aside the differences. After the elections, everything is fair game.
Oh, and whether you like it or not, your name tends to be associated with the Nutter campaign, due to your strong endorsements all over the web....please keep that in mind when the rhetoric starts getting out of hand.
i also want to add
i also want to clarify that when i say i am a "consultant who worked on anne's race," it wasn't me being paid for it. no one on that race was paid.
i really cared about these issues, and i still do.
And that is why casinos need to be stopped entirely
They are a tax on the poor and middle class.
They are a tax on women.
They contribute to increasing suicide rates and gambling addiction.
They rob local companies of business and new jobs.
And they pervert the political process.
And that's really the whole crux of the matter. For too long have Philadelphians been told: you can't do anything about guns. You can't do anything about a harmful & regressive tax system. And you certainly can't do anything about casinos. Its a done deal. You don't have a choice - in fact, these elections are just a sham.
Philadelphians have been treated with contempt and kept silent with fear.
But the stakes are too high. Homes and neighborhoods are at risk. And instead of caving into despair, neighbors did something different: they fought back. They took what was theirs all along. What's more, CFP and DRNA have grown in strength, in numbers, and in leadership. Perhaps not in 40 years has there been such a positive moment for democracy in Philadelphia. I'm awed to see it grow and flower.
I'm with you on this, Anne
Tell us, how do we get your ballots, and how do we set them up, and work them, at polling places on Election Day? And could we do that and hand out ballots for candidates at the same time. I mean is it physically practical to do that.
Contact Casino Free Philadelphia
contact@phillysballotbox.org
There are some awesome field organizers now working at the office.
Thanks for your support!
Anne, I agree with you that
Anne,
I agree with you that we shouldn't have casinos, and I commend everyone's work on it. They are a incredibly gross, destructive, regressive tax on our communities.
But... Let's be be a little careful with statements like this:
50 years ago African-Americans in Philadelphia had zero power, held virtually zero offices, and were summarily discriminated against in every hour of the day.
So, you know, as a fan of hyperbole myself, lets make sure that we don't use it to alienate ourselves from those who should be our allies.
Bad math
No good counting decades!
Actually, now that you have
Actually, now that you have our attention, what is CFP doing, exactly?
How many polling places? Is there going to be some sort of slate of CFP allies that people are handed before going in?
Logistics
I've stepped away from Casino-Free for a bit, so its probably best to contact the office directly. I believe there will be a voter guide available like what the League of Women Voters puts out. PhillysBallotBox.org
The future of the anti-casino movement
As someone who fought to keep the casinos from coming at all, I have spent a lot of time thinking about what is going to happen this summer when all the appeals go before the surpreme court.
Looking at how the judiciary has ruled with regards to the Brady petition case, it is hard to see how elected judges are going to go up against both Governoer Ed Rendell and State Senator Vince Fumo (the two architects of the project), and kill casino projects all over the state that their friends have invested millions and millions of dollars in. In fact, it seems impossible. It would be political suicide for them...and most judges are scared already because of what happened to the judge (name escapes me) who lost his job at the ballot box in the pay raise scandal. Ed Rendell and Vince Fumo get judges elected, and help keep them in power. To rule against them on one of their most important pieces of legislation would take major cajones, and i dont know who has that...
...especially since Ed Rendell is basing his propoerty tax relief plan on the casinos. Who doesn't want property tax relief?
It's not a question of how bad or good the lawsuit is. It's a political question.
Ed Goppelt knows this - he actually withdrew his lawsuit because the judiciary is too biased. I mean, those guys (as of now) are going to let Fumo's lawyer be the same lawyer who would actually be a WITNESS in his own case.
I will be the first anti-casino activist, then, to say this: the casinos are coming.
They are.
We have to figure out how to deal with them.
Move them if we can.
Mitigate their effects.
Hide them, bury them...
We need to suck them dry for money. Build a blockade between them and Pennsport. Use them to pay for a major transit project along the Delaware that would alleviate the traffic. Paint Mural Arts all over them. Get them to pay for 150 new mini-schools like the School Reform Commission suggested. Create some sort of barriers so that Philadelphians lose less money from them.
Whatever.
Sometimes - in order to win a larger war - we have to admit to ourselves that we have lost a battle. And then you just keep fighting.
I think that since we are going to have casinos here, we need to get real, and derive social benefits from them. I am hoping that with a new mayor, we will be able to develop our economy over the long term; but in the short run, our city government could really use some cash.
P.s.
And if we don't deal with them - if we don't face reality and kind of start talking about mitigation and funding and all that stuff - we are going to get casinos that are our worst nightmare.
If we don't seriously try to have input into the process now, it's going to be even worse!
I truly feel that we are losing time with these media stunts. All they do is get people on TV.
There needs to be serious negotiation now with the casino companies about how to make this work. If we don't do that, we risk losing all opportunity to keep control over our own homes and neighborhoods.
But who?
Who negotiates, Hannah? And, for what?
I'll tell you who. The DRNA is the representative group of 23 community associations--each united. They aren't convinced it is time to give up. As a delagate to the DRNA, neither am I.
As for the lawsuits, as a member of the bar, I can't attack judges or the court. It is not something I believe I am ethically allowed to do. I can talk about flawed reasoning all I want, but that is about as far as I can go. We will have to wait and see. Some of us were thrilled when the PAGE lawsuit came down (you know the one that preserved local zoning--something every sitting State Representative took from us!). It is the basis of the first Casino Free lawsuit, one that I am very familiar with. So--you can say the process is broken all you want. But, the rest of us still want to and need to go through that process. This is as much about creating a record as it is about jumping through hoops.
The DRNA and CFP are walking the walk. They need help and allies, not people crying in the wilderness and false prophets. I keep reading what you are writing, and I keep waiting to understand why you think we need to give up????
Possible, Probable, and Likely
Who would have thought that 17 City City Councilors would vote in favor of the referendum?
Who would have thought that Frank DiCicco would work with Casino-Free Philadelphia?
Who would have thought that 27,000 signatures could be gathered in the cold of winter?
***
Who would have thought that 25% of the State Legislature would be voted out of office last year?
Who would have thought that the president of the State Senate would loose in a primary to an unfunded neophyte?
Where is the invincible John Perzel these days?
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Politics is the art of the possible. Perhaps the deck is stacked against Philadelphia. Perhaps political consultants all around Philadelphia are being offered lucrative positions by casino investors to dampen hopes. But I have faith in the people of Philadelphia, they should get a chance. They are a lot smarter and a lot tougher than they are given credit for. And afterall, they started a bit of a Revolution just a couple of hundred years ago....and somewhere awaking in minds across the city is an idea that THEY are the ones in charge.
http://ballotforchange.blogspot.com
I'm not saying that we haven't made a lot of progress.
I'm not saying that we haven't made a lot of progress. You and Vern Anastasio deserve a lot of the credit.
But I really really do think things are going to hit a dead end this summer, and folks need to start thinking about what happens next.
- What we want to ask for
- What they should look like
- What council should do with the money
- How this plays into zoning reform efforts
- The transit situation.
- etc.
That's all.
In other words ... Hannah
In other words ...
Hannah believes you need to have a plan B to deal with the scenario of accepting the casinos.
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Staff member of Longacre for 5th Council District.
Longacre Website
To some extent, there already is a Plan B.
That's kind of what i think the Pennpraxis folks have been doing this whole time with their riverrfront development forums - getting ideas for what a river would look like, a kind of blue sky project - (like my "Fluffy Bunnies" thread from last fall, wow those were the days! - http://youngphillypolitics.com/lets_zone_the_river_for_fluffy_bunnies).
I don't think the casinos were in there with the planning folks?
I don't know. The process was very open. It has to be a collective dream, you know?
However - to go back to my original point...
There is no guarantee or even HOPE that all these great ideas will be implemented - unless - AHEM! We get our fannies in gear and GOTV for Michael Nutter and some decent city council people on May 15!
So please.
Here's the Philly for Change endorsed slate again - please call in sick to your job on May 15 and hit the streets, peeps.
http://www.phillyforchange.com/
Thanks
Hannah
The PennPraxis Process was flawed from the start
Read Bruce Schimmel's article from 2 months ago to see what happened.
It was so flawed that Neighbors Allied for the Best Riverfront held their own charette (sp?) (at 1/1000th the cost) last Saturday.
You can read about that here: http://www.greencityjournal.com/content/blogsection/4/35/
*Disclaimer I support and volunteer for Caryn Hunt for City Council. (the author of the above journal article)
Its interesting to me
That you use the same rhetoric I hear from casinos and from pro-casino legislators. I think they've already proven themselves to be slick and unreliable. If you ever what to stop a grassroots movement, plan to loose. Energy and resources get sucked away quickly.
Besides, I think we are focused to win. The referendum will be a wake up call to Harrisburg. And if ever there were a smart and ambitious politician in Philadelphia - Ed Rendell is the man. The weight of public opposition is not lost on him.
Shout out to the real leaders of the movement...
Yeah, Vern Anastasio, Frank DiCicco, and I have all ran on anti-casino platforms - and we've helped out a lot, but the real heros and leaders of the anti-casino movement are folks like Rene Goodwin, Mary Reinhardt, Mary Stumft, Ken Gregory, Ginger Sacha, Amy Michaels, Cindy Farlino, Jethro Heiko, Daniel Hunter, Meredith Warner, Elizabeth Benjamin, Ed Verrel, Norma Van Dyke, Ursula Reed, Matt Pappajohn, Ed Kirlin, Ed Goppelt, Alan Sandals, the 23 heads of the DRNA, and many others who would rather be out of the spot-light. Their's is the story that isn't being told -- UNTIL NOW!
Please come out to Casino-Free HQ tonight starting at 5pm - we have an exhibit showing the history. CFP is located at 520 N 2nd St. Just look for the giant old smoke stack.
An exhibit showing the
An exhibit showing the history of Casino Free Philadelphia?
Cool aye?
There are lots of artists in CFP.
Yeah and I would like to shout out too
To the folks who busted their butts on Anne's campaign last year who deserve to be lauded publicly, because they were also responsible for this historic change in how we talk about casinos, zoning reform, etc: Jen Murphy, Ray Murphy, Josh Richard, Keith Campbell, Sam Durso, JR King, Matt and Karim, Dan Brook, Rachel who actually got fired from her job for doing Anne's website, other folks who want to remain nameless, Renee for her speech at LC, everyone who phonebanked, Peggy for putting up with my insanity at my day job, a billion canvassers, the political folks who vouched for our sanity and got us even into meetings, TONS AND TONS of other people since campaigns are made up of so many things - and let's not forget most of all Simon Dicker.
Damn things were gonna come anyway.
But you really threw a wrench in there.
And don't forget Hannah Miller too
Its shame that you've lost hope. That's okay. Everyone feels that way sometime in this battle.
Come to the CFP event, you'll be inspired.
You're welcome Anne.
Looking forward to your next run!
You know what's REALLY bad for Dems, Anne, redux
Losing to Karl Rove and George Bush.
So very true Lou
That election ripped my heart out.
But there are a lot of reasons why it happened. It was far more than 527s. It was the voting machines in Ohio. It was the voter intimidation in Florida. It was the strength of the pro-Bush media. It was the amazing precision of the Republican machine that had been built up for 30 years.
Democracy dies when people give up.
I could have given up on November 3, 2004. But I didn't. Neither did you.
And now the Republican party is collapsing. You might not see it yet. But it is.
And that's why it is absolutely crucial that we don't give up now. Because if we can't stop the disasters of our own party's making, how can we possibly clean up the mess Republicans are leaving us with?
Here's a not well kept secret: Philadelphia's casino movement is not about casinos. You won't believe me, but organizers around the world are looking at we are doing here. Why? Because this movement is about rekindling the fire of democracy.
And I think that's a worthy goal any day.
I very much appreciate you comments on this thread, Anne
and just want to add that 527's and Rove were not the only reasons that Dems lost the elections, and resorting to such tactics are certainly no guarantee of success. The main key are better candidates and better organization of a Democratic voting constituency - which means having a reformed and more responsive Democratic Party leadership that reaches out to disaffected and disillusioned voters.
If anything proves that such changes are a real possibility it is the type of work that CFP has been doing - which pressured the existing Democratic Party leadership in Philly to feel a bit less complacent about their responsibilities.
I've actually found this conversation rather than limiting
I don't understand what the issue with 527s is. The federal campaign finance laws are terrible. Republicans have a much more extensive base of donors who can give up to their individual limit as opposed to Dems.
As such, Democratic supporters used 527s and PACs much more in 04 and 06 than Dems.
Further, 527s and PACS opened up the door to people who were not traditionally leaders in the Party to take much greater ownership of the process. Planned Parenthood, NARAL, Sierra, and other old-school liberal groups had to do more than just write big checks as a result of campaign finance and actually mobilized their leaders and members to knock on doors.
And of course DFA (PFC's parent group) and MoveOn.org probably would not exist the way that they do if they couldn't have organized 527s and PACs in 2004.
Point well-taken, Ray
I'm don't know much about the personal animus thingy, but I think that the topic of whether Dems should imitate Rovian tactics is an important one, and I appreciate Anne's taking it on.
I hope that this issue will be the subject of further discussion at YPP.
A question I felt was never answered was just how effective MoveOn was in the big picture - no matter how much they claimed their efforts had such a huge impact. My sense is that mostly they mobilized voters who were going to vote anyway, and that their focus subsequent to the election on media-centered organizing rather than a more localized approach has ultimately created a damaging backlash that has been effectively capitalized upon by right-wingers. I was hugely disappointed with how MoveOn specifically moved away from building on grassroots outreach to unrepresented constituencies in order to focus on big-money tactics. Remember when after the election the number one issue among MoveOn members was on election reform? How much have they continued with that issue as opposed to personality-based politics?
Sure, the Swift-boaters influenced the election, but focusing in their impact covers over how the real reason why Republicans have been so successful is that they focused on grassroots organization so much more effectively than Dems did for decades. And focusing on their impact covers over the basic reality that the Dems just ran terrible candidates who were out largely of touch with voters.
PACs and 527s aren't necessarily incompatible with other political approaches - but they do tend to alienate many voters with their "special interest" and "big-money" appearances, and in the sense of long-term returns, such approaches raise questions with respect to allocation of energy and resources. I'd rather see the money spent through person-to-person interactions and on reaching out to more directly people who don't currently vote.
And BTW, I'm still hoping that at some point you'll post on YPP on the issue of how you assess the effectiveness of your efforts with PAS.
remind me
I can't answer you now. Sorry. But there is quite a bit of data out there and I actually have heard quite a few people say that the combined efforts of ACT, MoveOn and America Votes partners in 04 were solely responsible for high turnout among infrequent voters.
I'll look forward to hearing more when you have time
as well as your thoughts on PAS.
PS- on MoveOn
MoveOn is funded almost solely by member contributions--3 million people + nation wide of which some large percentage gives $50 here, a $100 there.
MoveOn does whatever its members tell them and pay for. I suspect election reform work, while popular in an online vote, did not get all that many people to give. I wouldn't point to this as a flaw in MoveOn so much as a flaw as a flaw in our democracy.
After all, how many people have come to this site and this electoral cycle for personality and will likely fade away when it is done?
Regarding MoveOn
My understanding of their oganizational structure is that they specifically have chosen to centralize decision making, and have taken the "polical consultant" route for tactical decisions - no matter the broad base of their economic support.
I can understand why such a decision would make sense, but I think it has significant implications - and I think that the decision-making paradigm with MoveOn needs to be clearly understood.
I am not sure where you heard that
That was never my experience working for MoveOn nor has it been with the people I have kept in touch with since. MoveOn staff always carefully read all emails members sent and collated the responses sent. The biggest problem with MOveOn was and is its emphasis on "scalability" which is the idea that whatever action the group took nationally had to be able to work in Peoria as well as it did in Philadelphia.
I'm happy to write much more about this post-election, but I think your info is wrong.
I'll dig it up when we re-engage on the topic
but some of my thinking is based on some articles I read, and part of my thinking is based on the discussions NN had with MoveOn representatives regarding local organizing post-election
ACT
I wanted to jump in earlier about the 527 issue. My first paid job in progressive politics was ACT PA. I contribute where I am now to the real grassroots campaigning I did with ACT. We mobilized thousands and volunteers for election days and thousands for the 3 months before election day. Wherever I go, I run into an ACT vet from some part of the country and I know they are good people who understand field work. Not all 527s are bad, its a shame ACT went debunk but its hard to get the donors to write checks when you lose.
Anne: The Pro-Bush media?
I think I was paying attention in 2004, but I missed that one. Did all those liberal reporters everyone talks about change their registration?
BTW, Anne, I agree with you on double standards. Which is why I find all the handwringing here about McGinty and DeBerardinis most amusing. If Republican state officials had been exposed in the same minor conflict of interest, folks on here would be calling for their heads.
Regarding casinos, this is a tougher fight than the salary grab repeal or the fight to get ethics legilsation passed in Council. The vast majority of voters were with the reformers on those issues. Our polls, and polls by others, show Philadelphians are split about 50-50 on casinos. Before you can convince elected officials, you have to convince the people.
Gar: you are right
(3) I've always thought that half of political organizing is education. Not propaganda, but real education. I see this fight much differently than I did even 5 months ago - I've learned a lot from long-time activists who have won fights against bigger foes. Just as 2 casinos on the riverfront was polled at 40% a year ago, its now at 20-25% - and that's due to interest and education. We aren't there yet, and sure we could loose, but I don't think I've ever seen such depth of commitment. When one of our leaders flippantly remarked we were ready to go in front of bulldozers and got quoted in the paper, folks were ready to line up. That surprised the heck out of me. I don't think they would have done that for the Pay Raise.
(2) Couldn't agree more.
(1) The rise of Fox News, and the subsequent right-ward march of CNN and MSNBC.