Dead Woman Walking

Some notes on the Presidential Race

1.Hillary is over and has been for at least a month. It is impossible for her to close the delegate gap. So, to win, super-delegates would have to decide to support her in one of two ways. They might, first, simply hand her the nomination against the will of the majority of the delegates. Or, second, they could change the rules in a way that gives Hillary the majority of regular delegates by, say, seating overwhelmingly pro-Clinton delegations from Michigan and Florida. The first path is manifestly undemocratic. The super-delegates might get away with this without too much complaint from the Obama supporters and the broader public if there were broad agreement that Obama is somehow too flawed to be President or far less likely to defeat McCain than Clinton. But, in the absence of an utterly unforeseeable event, that is just not going to happen. Whatever you think of who is more electable, the case for Clinton or Obama is simply not obvious.

The other alternative is for the Clinton delegates and super-delegate to change the rules. But that would be so manifestly unfair that it would damage a Clinton campaign and not just with the Black supporters of Obama who would, rightly in my view, believe that racism, or oversensitivity to racism among the electorate, is responsible for Obama losing the nomination. Clinton is ambitious, possibly to the extent of endorsing such a suicidal move. The super-delegates will not go along.

2.The struggle between Clinton and Obama will not hurt the Democratic nominee in the general election. The political science evidence against the likelihood of contested primaries hurting general election nominees is pretty overwhelming, unless something comes out in a contested primary that damages a candidate that would not come out in the general. In most cases, however, the earlier damaging information about a candidate comes out, the better. Jeremiah Wright will be, for many people, old news by October.

The reason we political activists fear contested primaries is that we are intensely involved in them and tend to strongly favor one side or another. And that tends to make us angry at the other side. Most voters are not like us. Sure, they will take sides and for a day or two, and in the run-up to voting, will disparage the candidate not their own. But most people pay little attention to the presidential primary when it is not in their state. And their anger about the election tends to dissipate. Moreover, once the focus is not on Obama vs Clinton, but Obama vs McCain, then voters will tend to forget about primary squabbles. (It has recently become a truism of political science that the opinion of voters on both issues and candidates is highly volatile and changes depending on the choices offered them.) So I guarantee that if you ask Obama and Clinton voters from Pennsylvania if they will not vote for the other candidate in three weeks, you will see results far more encouraging than those found in the exit polls on April 22.

Of course, we activists will remain angry for a lot longer. But we are in the forefront of those who want to see a Democrat elected in 2008. The Clinton supporters among us are not going to abandon Obama. (And don’t tell me about 1968…the evidence that McCarthy and Kennedy activists did not vote for Humphrey is, as far as I know, entirely anecdotal. And if it did happen, it was more because Humphrey waffled on the war, not because McCarthy and Kennedy supporters hated Humphrey. We didn’t. We felt sorry for Hubert.)

3.Racism is not going to hurt Obama much if at all. Yes, he is going to lose the votes of some white working class Democrats who can’t bring themselves to vote for a black candidate. But many of those working class Democrats have been voting Republican for years because of quasi-racial and lifestyles appeals on such issues as busing, affirmative action, Willie Horton, and gay rights. Democrats have not been winning an overwhelming majority of the white working class for a long time.
Remember, in the fall voters will choose not between Obama and Clinton but between Obama and a Republican who can be tied to a Republican President presiding over a recession. Under these conditions, a brilliant, non-threatening black candidate, who will be running a centrist campaign, is not going to be more objectionable than the white candidates who have been tarred with these Republican wedge issues and who ran in better economic times.

And, finally, for every white voter Obama loses, he may bring another black voter to the polls. So not only does Obama have a good chance of winning the states with large working class urban centers, he has a chance to pick up some states in the South. The appropriate historical parallel is the Kennedy race in 1960. Jack Kennedy did less well with Protestant voters than Truman and Stevenson. But he did much better with Catholics and brought many more Catholics to the polls. (Catholics voted less frequently then than they do know because they were less well integrated into the middle class in 1960 then they are today. The best research on the 1960 election showed that Kennedy gained 2.2% over the expected Democratic vote because of his religion. The race was close not because of his religion but because times were pretty good, Nixon was the relatively popular Vice President of a very popular President, and JFK was young. Obama’s youth is a concern today although my sense is that this is not likely to be as important now as it was in 1960.

4. If we don’t screw up royally, we are going to win this one (Just don't get overconfident). It is possible to make fairly accurate predictions of Presidential election results by looking at the state of the economy and the popularity of the incumbent President in the spring of the election year. Take a look at the numbers now and you will see that this election is ours to lose.

Pre-emptive side point about MI

Since I have encountered an inaccurate argument badly made over and over again in other forums by some Clinton supporters - the Obama campaign did not make it impossible for a MI revote to take place. US District Court did as the result of a lawsuit by the ACLU. The finality of that court decision was then sealed by the same MI state legislature that foolishly moved up their primary date.

In a nutshell, MI state lawmakers decided to make a bid to move up their primary in contradiction to DNC rules. The DNC said "No the primary won't count" and most of the candidates, including Barrack Obama agreed to not even put their names on the ballot. Hillary Clinton's supporters did however put her name on the ballot as did some of Mike Gravel's I think.

Anyhow MI is an open primary state. That means anybody can pick what party's primary they particpate in on election day by requesting that party's ballot on election day. MI Democratic voters who were told in advance their delegates would not count at the Democratic National Convention. Naturally under such a system and such conditions strategic Democratic voters picked the Republican ballot in large numbers to select the Republican they thought they could most live with since at least their vote would have an impact. Rightly or wrongly in terms of perceived "moderateness", McCain won on the Republican side. Any strategic Dem voter including some Clinton supporters under such circumstances might have picked up the Republican ballot and certainly Obama, Edwards, etc. supporters would have had a strong impetus to as well since their candidates did not even appear on the Democratic ballot (which they were told would not count anyway). Whats important is that in terms of Party registration, simply picking one party's ballot in one primary is by MI state law a defacto re-registering in that party even if you had participated in the other party's primaries religiously for the last 30 years.

Hillary Clinton supported a revote but Democratic Party rules prohibit specifically registered Republicans from participating in the nomination process so that means that any loyal MI Democrat, including supporters of candidates that were not even on the ballot, who voted strategically in the JAnuary Republican primary would be excluded from a revote. More than that the state was not going to have taxpayers pay for a second election for only one party anyway. That means the revote would have to be staged and funded by the Party itself.

So what does that mean? That means a private political party (the MI Democratic Party) would have to get access to how people voted in the last election (the botched January primary) in order to exclude now recently re-registered Republicans (even if they had previously been loyal Dems). Thats also happens to be unconstitutional, giving voting records to one private political group and not to every other poltical party. Dem voters who strategically picked up a Republican ballot in January would be barred by Dem Party rules from the revote and the revote would obviously favor Hillary supporters. Beyond that the revote even for this smaller Clinton-skewed group would be dependent on the Democratic Party being given information that is unconstitutional for it to have according to Federal District Court.
http://www.mlive.com/elections/index.ssf/2008/03/federal_judge_in_detroi...

Basically by participating in the primary in the first place, Hillary Clinton herself made it impossible for supporters of any other Dem. candidate that decided to vote strategically in January to participate but also made it plainly illegal for the MI Democratic Party to obtain the information it would need to conduct such an innately unfair revote process anyway.

I repeat this because there has been an attempt to blame contradictions in MI state law, Democratic Party rules, and a U.S. District Court decision that make a MI revote impossible on intransigence by the Obama campaign. Clearly the story in the link above explains why thats flatly untrue.

Please forgive me for taking this thread temporarily off-topic, I just know that many folks have missed out on the District Court decision angle entirely and therefore don't understand why a revote in MI is plainly illegal above and beyond the actions of the MI state legislature and the rules established by the DNC Rules Committee.

Anyhow continue discussion as before.
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.

Two corrections

Just for the sake of the facts, I don't contest your main argument at all.

1) Mitt Romney won the Michigan Republican primary, not John McCain. Romney is fairly popular in Michigan, since his father George was once governor there. He also did much better among the crossover labor vote (McCain's honesty that industrial jobs are "not coming back" probably didn't help). There was also a campaign among some strategic Dems specifically to vote for Romney to keep his candidacy alive, in order to draw resources from McCain (McCain had already emerged as the likely nominee).

2) Dennis Kucinich and Chris Dodd were also on the Democratic ballot. And nearly 40 percent of Democratic primary voters voted "uncommitted," which was generally construed as support for either Obama or Edwards.

Ooops

You are correct on both counts.

I also note that there has been a new proposal for MI to attempt to send a delegation of pledged delegates split 69-59 in Clinton's favor but I have failed to find the argument establishing why that split was picked exactly. Its not based on an actual results so any projection not based on an actual campaign by both candidates would seem at first glance arbitrary and problematic.

The 69-59 split would equate to an approximately 54%-46% split. For a matter of comparison neighboring "rust belt" Ohio went for Clinton 74-67 which would be approximately a 52%-48% split to Clinton's favor and also neighboring Wisconsin (comparable debatably to MI's more rural Upper Peninsula) went to Obama 42-32, representing a 57%-43% split in Obama's favor. In addition looking at census data Michigan is approximately 15% African American whereas Ohio is only 12% African-American, another rough demographic indicator that Obama might have done better not worse in Michigan than he did in Ohio.

In short, based on very rough indicators, I would be inclined were I on Obama's campaign team to look at this proposed 69-59 split, extremely skeptically. Of course to be fair Edwards would have still been in the race for MI but I would assume he pulled from both Obama and Clinton's numbers.
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.

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