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Larry West: CHANGE THE AGE TO RUN FOR OFFICE!
As you know, I don't promote mayoral posts to the front page anymore, but Dan's in DC, and since this post is not technically about a Mayoral candidate (he's not on the ballot), I thought I'd promote...The reason I am interested in this is less about mayoral politics and more about age and politics.
This is Young Philly Politics--a site created by young progressives who weren't always asked to the table by older progressives and other city leaders. With that history in mind, do our young readers agree with Larry that the running age should be lowered for Mayor? -Ray
Hey everyone! I'm not sure if anyone knows this, but my name is Larry West, and I'm running for Mayor of Philadelphia, but I'm officially too young to do it. So, I've written the following announcement as to what I plan to do about that:
Today, Larry West, the 22-year-old man who is 3 years too young to run for Mayor of Philadelphia, announced that he was launching a massive multi-lateral campaign to have the Philadelphia City Charter changed so that he can run for office! Demanding that the age is lowered to 21 instead of 25, a fiery Larry West posted a video earlier today calling the entire thing a "disgrace", stating that the law disenfranchises potential young voters from voting, let alone running for office. He stated that Philadelphia holds the only office that you can't be 18 to run for. Also, he said that it should not be up top the leaders of the city, but the people to decide if someone at the age of 22 should be allowed to run.
The main question being asked is what chance does someone so young have at running for office? “Michael Sessions of Hillsdale, Michigan, ran for Mayor in 2005 when he was only 18 and still in high school, and won! And he ran as a write-in!” says Larry West. “People did it because they were sick and tired of how things were being run in their city. So, yes, in honestly think I have a chance here.”
The Larry West for Mayor Campaign also launched a web site today to motivate the youth vote to go out and vote. The campaign, called "REFUSE TO BE DENIED!", is based off the idea that no one of voting age should be denied the right to run for office. Quoting the web site, "If your old enough to live and die for your country, you should be able to run for office!" The site calls upon people to call, write and e-mail their City Council members, gather signatures for petitions, and simply begin to cause a fuss over the entire matter. Just how many signatures? "Our goal is to get 10,000 signatures!," states the web site. "hat equals nearly 5% of the voter turnout in the last election, and the same number needed to get an Independent on the Mayoral Ballot. We need as much help as possible to do this!" The site also mentions a possible protest being planned for Saturday, with no real official word on anything at this point.
However, the County Code, 16 P.S. § 413, provides that the age requirement for holding county office is eighteen; although this Code does not apply to First Class Counties such as Philadelphia (16 P.S. § 102), presumably this would also be the minimum age for holding office in Philadelphia. To such an extent, Larry West and his campaign team feels that the law should could be applied to the office of Mayor and City Council, and that a compromised age of 21 should be allowed.
Larry West has appeared on the cover of the Philadelphia Metro, Good Day Philadelphia, Philadelphia Weekly, and various other places. For more information on the event, please visit our website at http://www.larrywestformayor.com and http://www.larrywestformayor.com/refuse












Sorry this isn't Hillsdale/ WE TAKE THINGS SERIOUSLY IN PHILLY
Much props to you wanting to run for Mayor , keep the hope alive, but for some one under 25 to run for Mayor and actually win in Philly is impossible! But anything is possible in this day , especially in this lifetime. Especially for someone who doesn't have experience to run a city like Philly. What happen to loving the 20's , having fun, chasing girls for some. Does anyone do that any more?
What about enjoying life, college, maybe finding love for the 10th time. There is so much you can do, for some just going to the clubs is enough. Who wants to run a city like this at 21 anyway? Who seriously wants this job at any age is amazing to me. More of the youth need to learn about politics, come to the polls and learn about the election process. I don't think this is the best idea, but hey who am I to crush some one's dreams. I had dreams of running one time myself, then I woke up and left those aspirations to the idiots that really want that job.
Hey I guess if your old enough to smoke ,drink , kill, make children, defend your country, rent a car, leave the country, gamble ,why not run for Mayor right??????
Luv Ya T.P. Jr, Make us all proud!!!!!!!
Junior Williams
juniorwililams007@earthlink.net
http://mycityscapephily.eponym.com/blog
Larry West: Posistive Example
I will remember Larry West the next time I give a stump speech about folks doing positive things at younger ages. As opposed to the sheltered lives of our parents and grandparents, many younger people living in this age of exposure are redefining the concept of self determination. Reading about a young person who wants the opportunity to run for the Mayor's office is a whole lot better than reading about a young person who kills.
All the best Larry,
Elvin
www.elvin4judge.com
Who my hat is off to
Meanwhile, my hat is off to the many young people volunteering on the campaigns of people they believe in. My hat is also off to the many young people who aren't 100% supportive of their candidate, but they volunteer anyway because they see he or she as the best for addressing their issues and they are pragmatic enough to realize that that is how the world works. Those are the young people who are making a difference and building something. Unfortunately, Good Morning America does not want to interview those good folks.
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The Kid That Would Be Mayor
How come our youth & politics mix like water & oil? Our youth could care less about who's running for what or who the candidates are anyway. But this Larry guy, he seems determined to make a difference in this city. I would love to talk to this person and learn more about him. And find out how passionate he his about becoming the youngest Mayor this city will ever see. What made him come with the idea of running and who pissed him off that he feels that only he could make a difference?
How do the other candidates feel about this guy West? Do they even acknowledge him , or recognize he exist? Grow ups act like that sometimes with the youth, seen but not heard mentality. That's one of the many problems with this city, we don't pay enough attention to the youth in this city. Our youth fall under the cracks when it comes to issues that plague this city. We have future doctors, lawyers, mayors, astronauts right on our streets looking for that extra push instead of that constant shove that your nothing , stupid or my fave "you'll be in jail just like your father" speech. Lets give our children at least the courtesy of listening instead of insulting.
Go Forward Young West!!!!!!!!!
Junior Williams
juniorwililams007@earthlink.net
http://mycityscapephily.eponym.com/blog
I support Larry West for Mayor
For one thing, he needs a job. For another thing, he's an artist and I think having people in the arts running government would be a refreshing change.
I met Larry at the Milton Man March and found him to be intelligent with a good sense of humor.
Plus
I seriously think it would be great to have a mayor with a Mohawk.
If Brady, Knox, or Fattah had grown one I would have been able to decide on whom to support sooner - Nutter, I'm afraid, never had much of a shot, and Evans...
Larry West Is the Future Of Philly Politics
I was not as focused at 21 like Mr. West is now. I was just trying to find out who I was and how much fun I could get into in my young 20's , but this guy seems to have his head together. Focused to make a change whether he succeeds or not. I have to give my props to that, this is what future is all about.
What I ask of Mr. West is to not be alone in his quest and to be a positive example for people his age to follow. When Tony Payton ran for State Rep all was against him. He never gave up, believed in himself, believe that this city and state needed change. Dreams are what drives us to do great things. Whether he makes a change in Philly politics or not just him being there is history. We should recognize and pay attention to the youth of this city . They don't all want to hang on corners, hang on Myspace, and cause trouble. Some recognize like we do that change is needed in this city, they just want to do their part!
But 21 is still young to run Philly, have fun young man. You have my full support! The last person I said was the future of Philly politics ended up our State Rep. Do I know how to call'em or what.
Junior Williams
juniorwililams007@earthlink.net
http://mycityscapephily.eponym.com/blog
Well, this is his new gig.
Well, this is his new gig. For the last couple months he kept trying to convince people he was actually running for mayor and believed when he was elected, they would change the age rules for him.
Phillyblog spent a lot of time trying to educate him on the law.
I'm sitting here trying to
I'm sitting here trying to decide whether or not to take this seriously. But, since I have gotten by butt kicked by clients all day (see Rep. Cohen what accountability means), I'm feeling punchy.
When I was 22, I was quite civically active. But, I know I was not experienced enough to be the mayor of a city of 1.5 million people. I had a campaign thing under my belt, extensive planning internships, great non-profit work, graduated from college and started law school. And, despite these, and many other activities, my favorite thing to do was head to either Stone Harbor or Wildwood, N.J. on a summer weekend with friends and no place to stay. I remember driving home from Keenan's in North Wildwood thinking, this is going to last forever. It doesn't.
Enjoy youth, my friend. You can be mayor when you are older with more knowledge of people, business and law. Until then--don't rush it. It will be regretted. And, I don't mean to sound cranky today--but, I am. I don't meant to trivialize what you are doing either. I think we need more young people working in politics.
It is just that, I agree that there should be some type of age restriction on certain offices. No one is seeking (to my knowledge) to amend the constitition to change the age for Congresspeople. It is a matter of experience--not necessarily discrimination.
To the extent that your intentions are just for comedic purposes, ignore all of the above. I do not want to start competing with Ben Waxman for the title "Progressive with the Least Amount of Humor."
Gaetano...
Sorry to use your reply as my launching point, but your comments were spot on (and not cranky sounding). While I have no idea who you are Mr. West, I am going venture to say that you don't have an f'ing clue what you are talking about on any major issue. Period. But that's not a bad thing. You're just the personification of the fact that experience (if not replaced by depth of knowledge) means something.
That said, this post has me wondering, is Larry West the unfortunate product of a city (a region?) which places its politicians, good and bad, on a pedestal? Possibly out of boredom, possibly out of nothing else to write about, possibly out of, put simply, no one else to put there?
Compare this to kids growing up in the Valley, who grow up wanting to be the next Steve Wozniak, the next Jerry Yang. Perhaps it's a matter of nurture, a matter of exposure - folks like Pete Musser and Ralph Roberts were my heroes growing up.
Larry: I think you should
Larry:
I think you should petition for the ballot. If you get challenged or even tossed (I'm not sure that you can actually be challenged on that point - it might be the case that nothing could happen until and unless you're elected - the deadline for turning 25 isn't until the election date). You should also petition for a charter change that would drop the age floor for all elected positions in Philly to 18. In theory, a charter change referendum could be on the November ballot along with your candidacy, couldn't it?
However, if you want to be successful in politics, you need to work on your communication skills. It's bad form to correct grammar on a blog, but I'm doing it here because you've made the same mistake in pretty much everything of yours I've read, and they're not just blog posts, they're campaign missives to the electorate. "You're" is a contraction of "you are," "your" is the second person possessive adjective. So it would be "If you're old enough to live and die for your country..."
Also, if you're going to cite facts to bolster your argument, they should be correct. 10,000 is neither the number of signatures required to get an Independent on the ballot for city-wide office this year (1967) or 5% of the votes cast in the 2006 General Election (somewhere in the neighborhood of 21,500).
I think you make a good moral point about the fact that most other counties have the minimum age for elected officials set at 18, but noting that Philadelphia is specifically exempted from this law and then arguing that the law should apply to Philadelphia makes no sense. And then the 21-as-compromise thing flies out of left field - there's no basis for it in any of the laws, and it weakens the points you've made elsewhere regarding what other rights and responsibilities one attains at 18.
Unfortunately, by making these errors, you're thwarting your own assertion that you are prepared to be mayor, by making what some will perceive as youthful mistakes. I wholeheartedly endorse the spirit of this campaign, but must confess that what you've shown so far, while leaving no doubt about your enthusiasm and commitment, raises serious questions about your qualifications beyond the mere fact of your age.
His running for mayor stint.
Phillyblog thread
I generally think that age
I generally think that age requirements should be eliminated for public office. Let the voters decide.
As for Larry's campaign, I am not really sure what the point is. I understand that he doesn't like Milton Street, but beyond that there doesn't seem to be much substance.
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Yeah, I agree on both parts.
Yeah, I agree on both parts. I don't get age requirements, and I don't get why we are paying attention to this. He is "running" because as far as I can see, he wanted to make a joke to counter Milton running.
As far as suing or something to be on the ballot. First, he would have had to actually collect petitions, file papers, etc. Second, age limits are held up all the time for elective office. If we want that changed, that will be a political fight. In the end, not many people are ready before 25 anyway, so, the impact of changing won't exactly be huge, but sure, why not.
Sure
If you're old enough to vote - you should be old enough to run. Though I haven't yet met an 18 year old who I'd vote for. At least not for Mayor of a major city. Tom Downey was the youngest elected to Congress at 25 - he served 8 terms? Decent guy.
Not About Larry
Yea, I agree with Kathy. I don't think that Larry West is the future of Philadelphia politics and I have actually read his platform (?) and stuff and he's not someone I would vote for. That said, isn't valid to ask why are there age limits for any office?
I don't think many 18 year olds would be elected--and not even because of experience, but simply because they don't know as many people as you do by the time you're 25, or 55, but why is there a ban on their running?
Probably because it is such
Probably because it is such a non-issue, no one really cares?
Under 25 as Issue Candidate
While it would be difficult for an 18-year-old or 22-year-old to raise money, build an organization, and get elected in the primary, I think the primary process could benefit from having a younger person run, whether they are 18 or 32, as an issue candidate. A group of men in their forties, fifties, and sixties doesn't always speak to the same issues that those of us who are younger would raise. Larry West or any other younger candidate speaking at the candidates forum could be a breath of fresh air, even if he didn't have a chance to get elected. (As other people have pointed out, Milton Street has a huge podium by virtue of the fact that 1) he's running for office, 2) he's eminently quotable, because 3) he very well may be crazy.
Larry, if I were in your position, I would get as informed as I can about the intricacies of city management and politics -- there's no better time to learn -- but I would focus my campaign on the specific challenges facing younger people in Philadelphia, and all of the larger issues that are important to younger Philadelphians which the more mainstream candidates won't touch. Hammer away on these, push the other candidates into addressing your issues, and you'll get a great deal of positive attention and possibly have a very good effect on the campaign.
Meanwhile, in the absence of a change in the law, maybe Young Philly Politics should groom a 25-35 year old to run as an issue candidate in 2011. YPP gets pretty favorable press now, but that would be a tremendous platform to voice issues important to young progressives.
Awesome Post!
Hands down, one of the most informative replies I've gotten on here, and I'm glad to get such a positive response!
I like the idea of pushing the issues facing the youth ahead first, and I will go in that direction! Thanks!
I like Issue Candidate/ A true PROGRESSIVE in Room 215
I think that would be a excellent idea to have a Issue candidate from YPP. We should have someone from this group to run in 2011 for Mayor if thats the next election. Who's better to understand what this city needs than someone who posts about this city day in and day out. Who would be up for that challenge? In enough time Larry will know the techniques of running a successful campaign. But for now lets all discuss and learn as much as we can so we don't look like fools in front of the masses.
To all new Councilmen and Women at City Hall:
When someone reaches out their hand to you for guidance, please don't push them away. It just makes them work harder to go for your job. No one wants to give a person a chance in Negadelphia. That's why I love this city so. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE! That might be the one to unseat you in the future, don't you love the future???
Larry think about that before you leap, take your time and study. It always pay off in the end!
Junior Williams
juniorwililams007@earthlink.net
http://mycityscapephily.eponym.com/blog