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No Permanent Bases
I heard a statement from Barack Obama in his Meet the Press Interview on Sunday that is very important to me. He said "there will be no permanent bases." Personally, I think that this is the most important commitment on Iraq that a candidate for our Presidency can make before taking the oath of office. I think that it is the that our bases are permanent most clearly takes us across that line between liberator or peace keeper and occupier. It arrogantly assumes that there will be no sovereign Iraq which might not want our troops in their country for the foreseeable future creates a mentally among both Iraqi nationals and our troops that we are in this for the long haul.
The interview has generally been panned by most as not a very good performance, considering the great speech he gave the night before, but this one line is very important. I am not sure if it is the first time it has been said, but I could not find a lot of discussion about the issue. As an Obama supporter I am very pleased to see him take this position which I had already been advocating.
Discussing permanent bases is much less sexy than discussing residual troops, but in my mind cuts closer to the fundamental issues without making promises that may be very difficult to keep. Those bases are an insult to the concept of Iraqi sovereignty and state more clearly than any propaganda that we intend to occupy their country for the foreseeable future. They gives lie to the claim that Iraqis chose their own government and that they are in any way independent of American control. Without those bases there is room to hope that our troops will come home and Iraq will once again govern itself.
When the major Democratic candidates talk about leaving residual forces behind that has a significantly different meaning if we are maintaining permanent bases. Those bases mean stationing our troops in Iraq permanently like we do in Japan, Germany and hundreds of other countries around the word. That is not what most of America wants, we do not want to occupy any Iraqi soil, we want to give them their country back and ensure that our troops are used wisely. In ways that make us safer rather than increase the risk to America and its citizens. We must shed the mantle of occupiers.
I think that this is a better position than promising no residual forces because it allows for more flexibility in finding solutions to the problems that plague Iraq. Most Americans feel a sense of responsibility and sickening dread when we consider what should be done in Iraq. We are not the solution, but under a difference president we can be a part of the solution. There is still potential for mass slaughters in Iraq, and our withdrawal plan should attempt to minimize that. For example, I think that some form of international peacekeeping force should be on the table as a possible solution, and a president who has promised "no residual forces" cannot promise American troops as part of a peacekeeping plan. I want our troops home, I still don't understand how anyone could have supported them going to Iraq in the first place. I also want us to be able to end this in a way that causes the least harm going forward, and I don't want my president to be hamstrung by promises that were made just to placate the base and win an election.
There are many ways you can promise peace. A withdrawal plan is critical, an end to combat missions is important, the promise of no permanent bases is fundamental.











End Imperialism
While we are at it, I would love to see someone promise to move out of the large ostentatious embassy we have in Iraq and into a embassy built on a more humble, less imperialistic scale.
Crossposted at Daily Kos, Booman Tribune, and Open Left.
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Airforce, Army and Naval
Airforce, Army and Naval bases have strategic, non-oppressive or "imperialistic" purposes.
I'd be critical of any candidate who would forclose stratgic military needs for political reasons. I like Obama, but this seems naive to me. Considering much of the nation does not really care for military strategy, it is a safe bet no one really cares and it sounds good to them. But, we have a Naval base at Diego Garcia for a reason. We have one in the Mediteranian for a reason. We have one in Saudi Arabia for a reason. Bases provide a deterence to war and attack on America's interests and, more importantly, Americans. In addition, the assit in providing assurances to allies that we'd be ready to defend them in the case of attack. They also support and provide troops for peacekeeping efforts.
Can Barack Obama say now, before he is President, that the United States Military does not have a stragegic interest in keeping a base in Iraq? I doubt it.
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I don't love Obama, but...
I don't love Obama, but... We live in a Democracy, and everything that is a 'military decision' about locating enduring, permanent bases is by default a political decision.
Obama has an entire cadre of foreign policy advisors with lots of experience from the Clinton administration on back. I feel pretty comfortable that whatever he promises will keep us a lot safer than our current leader.
Strategic Interests
Your logic implies that none of the candidates should have any opinion about military matters policy during the campaign. Obama and all of the major candidates had access to a large amount of information and advice on the issues foreign and domestic. I think he is informed enough to see that it goes against America's interests to have permanent bases in Iraq.
Bases overseas are to make America safer, project our power, and aid our allies. Bases in Iraq are making us less safe, eroding our power, and offending our allies.
I do not believe that Obama suggested closing those bases for political reasons. I think that he is opposed to the bases for strategic and geopolitical reasons and mentioned it in the interview (with no fanfare) because that is what he thinks needs to be done.
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Really . . .
Is it the bases making us less safe or the war itself?
We have bases in dozens of nations we aren't at war in.
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Those enduring troops in
Those enduring troops in Saudi Arabia are not exactly helping us.
How many of those countries with bases have a majority of the population that thinks it is justifiable to attack American forces, and want us to leave? How many of those countries did we attack with a preemptive doctrine that has inflamed the world against us?
The bases contribute
The war is making us less safe, these bases are inflaming the war.
I am not saying that bases in general make us less safe. I am saying that these bases make us less safe. They are a part of the war and symbolic of the occupation. We built these bases as an occupying nation and I think that sends a signal that we intend to remain one for the long haul. Maintaining the bases gives yet another argument to our enemies who try to convince their fellow citizens that they have to fight to kick us out of their land.
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Bases to Philadelphia; Ward leaders to Iraq
In keeping with the purpose of this blog...
We need bases in Philly where the money will go to employing and training people in our city.
What Iraq needs is help in getting their politics together. I suggest we send our ward leaders to Iraq to train the Iraqis. If they do nothing else, our ward leaders know how to create a politics that enables leaders of rival tribes to all get along. And to help grease things in Iraq, I'd give our ward leaders some control over US public works spending in Iraq. They will know, far better than US corporations with ties to Dick Cheney, how to spread the money around in ways that lead to political stability.
As one ward leader famously said, his foreign policy is "peace with East Falls." That is a peace that has been maintained for years.
I'm in
I'm in, if you let me bring my own security.
Lou Agre
Ward Leader 21st Ward