Brady in, Dougherty Out

As most know- Bob Brady has confirmed he is going to run for Mayor.

Today, the final candidate shoe dropped, and John Dougherty announced he will not be running. The Next Mayor has details.

Basically, Dougherty chalked it up to family stuff, which I certainly take at its word. Running for Mayor and being Mayor are not something you can do without a total time committment.

And so, the field is set. This is obviously good news for Brady.

2 white guys, 3 black guys and Queena.

This is interesting. Do you guys really think the field is set?

Queena was there this

Queena was there this weekend. It was surely interesting.

I have been thinking about this question for some time, and I can't really think of anyone else who may run.

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yea, but

will anyone else leave?

Good point. Again, I can

Good point. Again, I can think of who should leave, but not who will.

Ray, you're always asking me tough questions.

Supporting Michael Nutter in 2007!

Don't start Gaetano...

:)

No Doc = Lower Collective Candidate Intellectual Capacity

The only bad thing about John Dougherty not getting into the race is the impact it will have on the collective intellectual capacity of this year's pool.

Once Congressman Brady dives in, we might just move up a couple of spots to 12,435,001 on the Global Intellectual Capacity ranking, just ahead of a four foot pile of crumb rubber, but still a spot behind the cap of my highlighter.

I am reminded of an episode of The West Wing, when Toby recommends to President Bartlett that he make his re-election campaign about "smart, and not." As it relates to this year's mayoral election, I feel like if I were to say that intellectual capacity, as it relates to one's fundamental ability and/or willingness to think boldly about where he or she wants the city to go, matters more than anything in this race, that I would have a certain % of folks who read this blog who might just agree with me.

If that is the case, who's the candidate that makes this race about smart, and not?

so youre supporting nutter?

so youre supporting nutter?

The notion that Nutter is

The notion that Nutter is somehow a bold thinker is something that I have yet to see sufficiently substantiated. I would agree that, at first blush, either he (or Knox) likely possesses the most intellectual capacity.

There is also this notion (spread by political reporters much too arounsed by the lives and general goings-on of famous local politicans, like the main posters here) that Dwight Evans is some sort of policy wonk. I have discussed business-related policy with Dwight Evans and I can say with full confidence that the man is incapable of thinking big as it relates to business development, which is to say job and wealth creation.

Yummy Fran, With your high

Yummy Fran,

With your high standards, you'd only be happy if Stephen Hawkings was running for Mayor. Personally, without getting into specifics, I'd say that 3 of the 5 candidates possess at least above average intelligence. Besides unless you have some super guru who is suddenly going to join the Mayoral race after winning the Nobel Prize in economics (yes, not really an original Nobel Prize), I think the point of posting here is to make the best of what we've got. I want your post on the entrepreneurial imperative and other bold ideas...anytime you are ready. :)

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well . . .

. . . we still don't know of any Republicans seeking the job, nor any third party candidates.

Third party

There's a Green party candidate running, Kerry Foster. I heard him speak at the NW Candidates' Forum a couple weeks ago. He was overmatched and underprepared, but he is out there, so give him props for that. Details at http://www.gpop.org/

It is hard to imagine that Brady can grab much attention at this late stage of the game. But I suppose there must be good reasons everyone has been intrigued by his impending candidacy. The allegiance of the ward leaders makes me very nervous that he will be representing the status quo.

Johnny Doc for State Senate

I don't know how the young progressive's on this site got such a bad outlook on John Dougherty. If any thing I would have thought the opposite. Johnny Doc is not a politician in the true sense of the word. He's a youing guy who grew up in a row house in south phila and still lives there. He learned a trade and took a interest in the way his union was being run so much that he positioned himself in becoming the business manager when he was still in his early thirties. He could have put blinders on and just sat back with that job. He did not. He got involved with neighborhood associations trying to make it better for everybody. He got involved in politics but was looked at by the established pols as a mavirick. As we all know that anyone who tries to change the way of politics in Phila will soon be an endangered species...that happened when some of our elected officials soon discovered that Doc was looking out for all around him instead of the usual tried and true "ME FIRST" way of governing.I had the honor of being appointed to the board of directors of the Redevelopment Authority of Philadelphia, of which John Dougherty is Chairman. Under Doc's leadership the land disposition in the authority was changed from 1960's way of doing business to a effeciant 21st century development machine. Over a billion dollars worth of construction WITHOUT TAX ABATEMENTS!!!! The most proud accomplishment of the Dougherty led board is, for me, the minority contractor inclusion into all Redevelopment Authority construction projects.Prior to Doc's tenurer as chairman of the board the minority participation was a disgrace. On of Johnny's first directives was to make sure that MBA,WBA and DBA goals were not only met but shattered.Our minority inclusion is the highest in the city the state and the region.The morale at the RDA in 2000 was sad. In 7 years it has become a place where the union members and management both got along...it became a family-like establishment because John treated everyone like they were his family.He walks through the offices and talks to every employee and sees to their needs when needed.He personally made the RDA the most "fuel effecient" agency in the city. This is just a little taste of what John Dougherty has to offer. This, along with his charity involvements,show an energy that I have not seen in any elected official. I hope and pray that the health of Johnny's Family members works out for the good. Doc is young and has his best years ahead of him. He will be a impact player for years to come. Through attrition, the old way of "me first politicions" will be a thing for history books and John Dougherty will be at the forefront of the new and improved "what can I do for you" way of city goverment. Last but not least John Dougherty for State Senate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike, I actually like

Mike,

I actually like Dougherty as a person and think he's done pretty good work, but he has done so not so great stuff. Personally, I still can't believe that he endorsed Rick Santorum in 2006. A union leader supporting Santorum is like a hen supporting the fox. I also think that Dougherty has done a bad job making his case on this website. Your post is rare in that it actually presents some of the good things Doc has done without personal attacks.

Here is what it is: I think on substance, Dougherty is a pretty good guy. On style, he completely shoots himself in the foot.

-Ben
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http://benwaxman.com

Santorum? Your point is

Santorum? Your point is what? He made a decision to back him and he stands by it. BTW, weren't you the one that posted his Santorum response piece?

Making a case on this website? I came here to make a case for John and Local 98 – see
http://youngphillypolitics.com/node/1817#comment-4499 . I invited people to talk with us and see where there is common ground. We got a ton of positive feedback for that. Just because we don’t post here all the time doesn’t mean we haven’t reached out or that our position has changed.

And style? Think what you want. It’s undeniably effective.

Can you honestly tell me

Can you honestly tell me that Santorum was remotely good for the union cause in Pennsylvania and the United States? Seriously, we have already been through this a thousand times--just look back and see. It was only Mike Fera and you who even argued the Santorum was good on union, labor and working family issues. Bad arguments at that.

I admit, Mr. Doc. does do good things and has some credibility. I hope one day he and the Local will work with young progressives (or us with them). But, endorsing Santorum I will never understand outside of the fued of 2002 between Mr. Doc., Fumo, Casey and Rendell.

Supporting Michael Nutter in 2007!

Zzzzzz

What I can tell you is that we are focused on 2007 and beyond. What else do you have to talk about?

Hey Jeff, I'm not the one on

Hey Jeff, I'm not the one on here talking about how great Doc is and dismissing the Santorum thing. You are. So, if you are sleeping, it is likely because you know it is a tough subject that you probably do not even think about.

How about we talk about 2007 and beyond? Does Local 98 have any particular plans for social involvement? Is "Enough is Enough" off of the ground? How are things at the hall?

Supporting Michael Nutter in 2007!

I'm not dismissing the

I'm not dismissing the Santorum thing. I'm just saying it is what it is. John took the time to reach out through Ben Waxman and explain his reasoning here in a thoughtful and direct way. I stand with John on that issue. You're all free to disagree with us. So, again, what meat is left on that bone?

Ok Gaetano, will do. I'm running between meetings but will be happy to let you guys know where we are at in the very near future.

98 update

First of all, Gaetano, thanks for asking.

Things at the hall are great. Last year we had the largest turnout we have ever had at out holiday celebrations and charitable initiatives. We just released our latest newsletter that summarizes all this stuff – check it out at www.ibew98.org under our 98 news page.

Enough is Enough is moving forward under the diligent administration of Director Angela McIver. Fundraising and staff development are the key focuses now. John’s vision is for this operation to be a deep-rooted continual solution to our city’s growing violent crime and at-risk youth problems.

Tent 13 of Variety – The Children’s Charity (the name of the chapter over which Doc presides) received the #1 Chapter of the Year award in 2006. Doc’s initiative to provide after school programs for children with disabilities is doing excellent. As I mentioned in my previous post on this thread, the plans and fund-raising for an Autism Resource Center in Philadelphia are underway.

The PE&T Charter School recently received an award for it’s job placement program in addition to the "Best Practice Schools" recognition by the School District I mentioned before. The school is producing young, qualified, skilled citizens for further education and today’s workforce.

Obviously this year and next are going to be big politically. We have a $2 million PAC fund and over 4,500 members trained with political saavy. Since I’m only the resident geek here I won’t speculate on specifics but I’m sure we will be very busy.

And of course we will continue to use this site as a way to keep in touch with the progressive side of Philly. As I said, we may not post here all the time but we definitely listen and pay attention to what the community is doing.

Regards and until next time,

Jeff Marhall
IBEW Local 98

that's a convenient approach

"judge my guy only on his promises going forward, and not on any of his decisions, stances, or statements in the past"..?

surely you jest. a candidate's record is a much better guage of what he stands for and really cares about, good or bad, than are the promises and idealisms that he digs out for an election. for that matter, a person's record can be judged in the same way -- by the length and breadth of it, not the arguments he makes to defend himself.

eesh.
acm

It will be an issue if he

It will be an issue if he runs for office, just like his whole record, bad and good.

But right now, I do find this all sort of irrelevant since he isn't running for anything any time soon.

How about state senate

How about state senate (Fumo's seat) also there's a lot more good than bad....

that's not what i said. i

that's not what i said. i said i'm not going to spend time discussing it any further because we have said everything we have to say about it.

yes, lets move on

If he runs certain people, like me, will make it an issue, as part of his overall record. But, he isn't running for anything, so, I cannot exactly get worked up by it.

Anyway, if Doc wants to earn goodwill, he could start by using the collective power of IBEW and the like to help get Rendell's Health Care plan passed.

Johnny Doc

Look ,the Santorum debate is way in the rear view mirror. I had my reasons for the endorsement and I'm sure Doc had his.Maybe Doc doesn't post on this website to make his case but I'm sure if you ask people like Vern Anastasio, who is a very progressive and a honest person, you will get the true discription of Doc's character. You said it yourself John's good on substance but shoots himself in the foot on style. Isn't substance more indicative of ones character than style. I'm far from an expert but I've been around the block a few times andI've seen it all....the progressive way of thinking has many many great points and the "old school" way of politicing has many bad points but both ways not all good or bad... there has to be some kind of middle ground to have good goverment. Johnny Doc is the closest to that balance that I've seen.
Do me a favor and explain to me the style factor.

I can agree with some of

I can agree with some of this. But, Santorum was so devisive I really cannot see how there can be any debate on his endorsment by a large, important union like yours or 98. I just can't. We even debated it Mr. Fera. You didn't convince me then, and I don't think you were entirely convinced either.

Supporting Michael Nutter in 2007!

I don't want to debate my

I don't want to debate my Santorum endorsment. it's beating a dead horse. Very dead according to the election results!! Nobody can satisfy 100% of the people all the time. You have to let go of, what you think,past indescresions. If you keep following the cards around the table after you folded you will drive yourself mad. You got to get ready for the next hand. All i'm saying is that Doc has done more good than bad..even with in your opinion the santorum choice.......By the way thanks for making my union large and important :)

A lot of good stuff Mike –

A lot of good stuff Mike – nice post. Doc would have been a great candidate for mayor in 2007. He still is a great candidate for the future. Those who know John understand the type of man he is and the good he does. The rest will figure it out eventually.

State Senate ? Are we to

State Senate ? Are we to believe Johnny Doc's decision has nothing to do with the visit from the guys with the big letters on their jackets FBI ? Come on as close he he gets to senator is if he gets to share a cell with Fumo.

Johnny Doc

Here is one reason why a "Progressive" may not like Johnny Doc:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/15426614.htm

my full thoughts on the subject are here

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Phillyville

Ruby, ruby, ruby...

I work for 98 and not the RDA so I don't feel qualified to comment on any of that. But I can comment that I read the whole article and your thoughts and neither mentioned Johns name once.

Oops

I didn't mean for things to get so heated. I agree that bygones should be bygones-- the Santorum issue is pretty much over. They made the wrong endorsement. It happens.

I actually think there are a lot of potential collaborative points for Local 98 and other progressive. My post about green building is one example. Healthcare for activist/artist types is another. These are all things that Local 98 and other unions could show leadership.

It's important to recognize that the labor movement in Philadelphia has already done a lot of progressive stuff. The minimum wage is the biggest example. So is their work with the transit coalition. I don't mean to paint organized labor with one brush. Dougherty is not the devil.

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http://benwaxman.com

98 Is the only to hold super

98 Is the only Union in the city to hold super boxes at Citizen's bank park, wachovia Center and The Linc. That's progressive? Wouldn't that money be much more useful if it were spent on health care for it's members? 98 is no more then a personal advertising vechicle for Dougherty.

I May Have To Go Wireless But.

Try searching The National Labor Relations Board website to find out how wonderful 98 really is. Or check out the State filings for the 98's contributions to Bill Keller for the 2004 election. 98 contributed $150.000. Then look at the expenditures for Keller. $ 90.000 at Doc's Union Pub. Hmmmm how is that possible? State Senate or State Penitentiary?

Look Carmen, You should

Look Carmen, You should learn the rules before you lash out. #1 All union funds are separte enities and have trustees and attorneys from BOTH union and the contractor associations. The pension can not be used to pay for health care,the health fund can't be used for PAC contributions ,etc. So by stating that the money used for the super box (joint labor-management industry advancment fund)should have helped pay for health-care shows that you are in a field where you should at least do some homework. #2 when building trades unions negotiate an increase we settle on a dollar amount e.g. say $2.00 per hour for a year. That money is then discussed and VOTED on by the rank and file as to how to breakdown the $2. Maybe fifty cents into the pension thirty cents for health and welefare so much for wages and so on. it's the members who have the say and from what I can see the members of local 98 have overwhelmingly supported John Doc on everything he has done. As far as union Pac funds are concerned any member can inform the unions that they do not want to participate and the union will refund the money that has been deducted from their pay for Pac contribuitions. I have a few members who for religious reasons get refunded their Pac money. I am not in the least bit bashfull when I suport or defend someone I think you should come clean and let us know who you are posting for. It wouldn't be a certain councilman-at-large who lives in south philly??? Come on Carmen, I can see right through it!!!!!!

Thanks Mike

It's nice to have a well recognized and respected union leader with tons of integrety on here explaining how unions work. You set an example others should try to live up to.

So what are you trying to

So what are you trying to say Carmen? We’re successful? That we promote ourselves successfully? You’re absolutely right. And you’re also right that it’s not progressive - it’s marketing! Who else has access to boxes there? Successful industry leaders is who. We are proud to be among them.

And by the way our members health care was rated #1 by consumer reports recently so we're doing just fine in that area. Thanks for your concern.

We report everything we do to comply with regulations and it is all public info and 100% legal. You and everyone else in the world with internet access can see it. For your next trick, why don't you go to Richard Bergmans Bush-sponsored union facts website and post how much I made last year?

You know what’s funny? You sound like an Eddie Kirlin wanna-be.

I'm kind of agreeing with

I'm kind of agreeing with the Local here. More networking = more jobs = more people employeed. So what if it's through a super box, a lunch or dinner meeting. If law firms can have them to treat clients or future clients--why not a Union, assuming they act legally. Sure, I'd love for my employer to thrown more of their profits into my salary, but they don't and spend a bunch of them getting more clients. I'm employed and pretty happy about that. Too many people are not and if the Local is taking steps to forge relationships with businesses, contractors and developers so that more work and building come to Philly--great.

Also, I have to throw in a disclosure, I am a lawyer who works in the construction and development field. So the more people are building, the more I am working too.

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Grudge Match--again?

I agree with Gaetano, but it does not even matter?

I know Fumo and Doc people have issues with other. But most of us don't.

So can we take the grudge match somewhere else?

We Agree!

Ladies and gentleman, Ray and I have agreed for the first time in 4 months. Remarkable, I know.

Carmen--let the Local guys talk without you badgering them.

Supporting Michael Nutter in 2007!

No grudge match here Ray. I

No grudge match here Ray. I came on to respond to Ben and participate.

The Forced Super bowl

Explain how My son is being forced to pay $100.00 in CASH to watch the game at Docs UNION Pub? Even if you aren't going to Docs to watch the game. As for promotion. Why promote an entity that has a monopoly in the field ?? I've given it some thought why not just skip a run for Senator and jump right to President. ( Of the prison Laundry ) As the FEDS sift slowly through the boxes you will slowly become invisible here.

If your son feels wronged in

If your son feels wronged in any way there are plenty of legal avenues for him to express a grievance other than having his Dad whine about it on a blog.

Ed Kirlin is giving classes on busting balls at CCP this spring. Should I sign you up?

Carmen,you sure know a ton

Carmen,you sure know a ton about the feds....how is you're son being FORCED to pay $100 to watch the superbowl?

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