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Thoughts on a re-do primary by mail in FL, MI?
So I am a little surprised to be the one posting this, as it is not my area of specialty, and especially since YPP is usually such a hot bed of discussion for alternate voting systems, but how about that idea for re-doing the Florida and possibly the Michigan primary as a vote by mail process?
Because MI and FL moved up their primaries against the wishes of the DNC, they had had their delegates stripped - which was at the time plainly unfair to the voters of those states and in the current situation a disaster waiting to happen. Because of the unexpected closeness of the Presidential race, the prospect of a fight over seating delegates the DNC had sought to bar would seem to be in the best interest of party to avoid at all costs unless you are looking forwrd to 8 years of President McCain.
The solution being discussed by party chair Howard Dean: vote by mail with the costs being picked up by the state Democratic Party - rather than state tax payers or the national party. For Florida the estimated costs for the mail in primary would be $6 million.
DNC Chairman Howard Dean said a mail-in primary is "actually a very good process."
"Every voter gets a ballot in the mail," the former Vermont governor said on CBS's "Face the Nation." "It's comprehensive, you get to vote if you're in Iraq or in a nursing home. It's not a bad way to do this."
As for who pays, Dean said, "That is a problem," reiterating that the party needs its money for the general election campaign against Republican John McCain.
He also ruled out the state of Florida, where Republican Gov. Charlie Crist has nixed the idea. Dean suggested the state Democratic party might foot the bill. Florida's political parties, unlike the DNC, can accept unlimited contributions.
So thoughts?
I think both to avoid a sense of disenfranchisement by voters in these two states and for unity after whatever kind of convention battle happens anyway, the idea of re-do is a good one. It seems like it would be chance to focus a lot of media attention on the merits of voting by mail and ultimately neither side ends up feeling they were cheated by flaws in the primary process.
Also lets try avoid a "which candidate is it better for" strategical analysis but more focus on whats fairest for voters in these two states, who should pay for it, how it should be implemented, etc. Regardless of who we want to ultimate win, it seems there are issues about the merits of various approaches to solving the problem that are candidate-neutral. Thats the kind of discussion I'm most interested in hearing people's thoughts on.











A Fair Solution To A Problem Caused By Instransigence
Mail elections are a fair solution to a problem caused by the instransigence of Florida and Michigan state officials over their false belief that the Democratic National Committee had no ability to enforce its desire to control the number of pre-February 5 primaries.
The devil is in the details, but I am sure they can be worked out. Mail voting has long been used in Oregon, and it is a way to both create easier voting for some and cut the costs of maintaining polling places. Lou Agre has noted that it converts voting from a community act to a private act, and I think his concerns have validity. But, in this situation, where it is highly unlikely that any Democrat can win without carrying Michigan and any Republican can win without carrying Florida, it is vital that all Michigan and Florida voters feel included in a nominating process that includes voters in territories and Puerto Rico that have no general election vote.
A Presidential primary is a great event for both educating voters and developing activists for the long term. The more inclusive and democratic the process is, the better it is for the future of the Democratic Party.
I commend DNC officials, Florida and Michigan officials, and the Obama and Clinton camps, for working on this problem now and not letting it drift without giving voters in Florida and Michigan a meaningful choice.
Local govs raise cash
from here
Anybody know how the mail-in primary went from $6 million for one state (the larger one) to $30 million for two?
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.
The $30 million answer
Rendell and Corzine are trying to raise enough money that the states can both have full primaries. (Actually, they've said they could raise half, with the campaigns kicking in the other half.)
The mail-in primaries would cost less, which is why people are looking at that.
Corzine kicks in $$$
Corzine has also stated he will be making a large contribution himself to this endeavor.