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Why I don't know the election results
Submitted by michaelrfroehlich on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 1:56pm.
If I lived in Delaware County, I could find the results of the local election here.
If I lived in Montgomery County, I could find the results of the local election here.
If I lived in Bucks County, I could find the results of the local election here.
But since I live in Philadelphia, I have to rely on the partial results published at philly.com--but they don't have the judicial retention votes. It seems that the Philly Commissioners may have this information on-line, but you need a password to get them.
I called Tartaglione's office to ask for a password but was told that they only sold passwords to the media.
"We should this information public for everyone like the suburban counties," I said.
"But then we couldn't make any money off the press," I was told.
So can anyone tell me how close the retention votes were?
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nbc10.com has some of them
nbc10.com has some of them
The department of state has some results
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/
Unfortunately, they do not post council races or the ballot questions.
Maintaining their monopoly?
Thanks for this link. I didn't know the state office published the results for the local judges. I specifically asked the fellow I spoke to in Commissioner Tartaglione's office if I could find these results anywhere else online. He told me I couldn't.
All judicial retentions
are a function of the state, so the state takes care of it.
That you cannot get other local results online in Philly is absolutely absurd.
What's wrong with the City Commissioners?
I had a very similar experience when I was trying to get election returns for Ellen Green-Ceisler's campaign. I called Edgar Howard's office and asked if I could get copies of the municipal primary. They would not give them to me until I said that I was working for a campaign. Even still, it took a phone call from someone else to get the ball rolling.
It's pretty amazing that this information isn't simply available online to everyone. Unofficial returns should be posted on the website as soon as possible. There is no reason that normal citizens should not have access to this information.
Once again, the City Commissioner's office is mind-bogglingly backwards.
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What's wrong with the city commissioners?...
......everything, to answer your question Ben.
It's common knowledge that often, people from campaigns of those Democrats who challenge the Democratic party's endorsed candidates have to go to Commissioner Duda (the republican) to get better treatment and less roadblocks to information. The Commissioners office (the Democratic one, at least) operates as an extension of City Committee. And City Committee, for all its wonderful people (my wife being one of them), is a rather parochial insider's institution where friends are rewarded and dissenters are, if not punished, then at least rope-a-doped.
And yes, I just used a Mohammed Ali reference. Why is it every time i read or think about the City Commissioners, I have a visual of having to climb into a ring?
Information is power.
When they are ready to share power, they will share information. Not before.
Sickening!
The only word I have for that is SICKENING! Personally, I would like to know just how many votes I got online. I'm going down there tomorrow to find out just how many.
final vote tally
Where is the most up todate tally
http://phillyneighborhoods.org/
The Commitee of seventy has local race results
http://www.seventy.org/ftpgetfile.php?id=172